Odd Future's Tyler The Creator on FasterLouder.com.au

grattan said on the 7th Apr, 2011

JeremySC said on the 7th Apr, 2011

lolwut?!?!?!? That's mental!

berlinchair101 said on the 7th Apr, 2011

Bargain!

Quicky said on the 8th Apr, 2011

My hero. This guy is a genius

SlowerQuieter said on the 11th Apr, 2011

Great interview. I agree with his stance on the fact that many people can't tell the difference between the artist and the song's persona, very true.

grattan said on the 30th Apr, 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZM38u1KQY4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cbsGsk2DCk

grattan said on the 11th May, 2011

Album comes with a "RESTRICTED: HIGH IMPACT THEMES Not to be sold to persons under 18 years" sticker.

Easy way to make it the coolest album on every playground in the country!

SlowerQuieter said on the 11th May, 2011

Album comes with a "RESTRICTED: HIGH IMPACT THEMES Not to be sold to persons under 18 years" sticker.

Easy way to make it the coolest album on every playground in the country!

Hahaha! It's a surefire primary school smash hit waiting to happen! :D

grattan said on the 13th May, 2011

Great work by the Fader

http://cdn.thefader.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/BTN_goblin3.jpg

MilkySheep said on the 13th May, 2011

that is awesome. I honestly thought he would of had a higher "fuck" count. Also curious as to how many times he says "c*nt"

berlinchair101 said on the 16th May, 2011

I don't think we'll be seeing an Odd Future/Tegan and Sara team up any time soon...

grattan said on the 16th May, 2011

When will misogynistic and homophobic ranting and raving result in meaningful repercussions in the entertainment industry? When will they be treated with the same seriousness as racist and anti-Semitic offenses? While an artist who can barely get a sentence fragment out without using homophobic slurs is celebrated on the cover of every magazine, blog and newspaper, I’m disheartened that any self-respecting human being could stand in support with a message so vile.

As journalists and colleagues defend, excuse and congratulate ‘Tyler, the Creator,’ I find it impossible not to comment. In any other industry would I be expected to tolerate, overlook and find deeper meaning in this kid’s sickening rhetoric? Why should I care about this music or its “brilliance” when the message is so repulsive and irresponsible? There is much that upsets me in this world, and this certainly isn’t the first time I’ve drafted an open letter or complaint, but in the past I’ve found an opinion – some like-minded commentary – that let me rest assured that my outrage, my voice, had been accounted for. Not this time.

If any of the bands whose records are held in similar esteem as Goblin had lyrics littered with rape fantasies and slurs, would they be labeled hate mongers? I realize I could ask that question of DOZENS of other artists, but is Tyler exempt because people are afraid of the backlash? The inevitable claim that detractors are being racist, or the brush-off that not “getting it” would indicate that you’re “old” (or a faggot)? Because, the more I think about it, the more I think people don’t actually want to go up against this particular bully because he’s popular. Who sticks up for women and gay people now? It seems entirely uncool to do so in the indie rock world, and I’ll argue that point with ANYONE.

No genre is without its controversial and offensive characters- I’m not naive. I’ve asked myself a thousand times why this is pushing me over the edge. Maybe it’s the access to him (his grotesque twitter, etc). Maybe it’s because I’m a human being, both a girl and a lesbian. Maybe it’s because my mom has spent her whole adult life working with teenage girls who were victims of sexual assault. Maybe it’s because in this case I don’t think race or class actually has anything to do with his hateful message but has EVERYTHING to do with why everyone refuses to admonish him for that message.

It is not without great hesitation and hand wringing that I enter into the discourse about Tyler, the media who glorifies and excuses misogyny and homophobia, and the community of artists that doesn’t seem remotely bothered by it. I can only hope that someone reading this might be inspired to speak out. At the very least, I will know that my voice is on record.

MilkySheep said on the 16th May, 2011

She makes some decent points, but I think she should be complaining about Eminem using it though, as his influence is much more wide-spread.

berlinchair101 said on the 16th May, 2011

People did complain when Eminem did it.

I wish more people should complain about his songs now which seem to be him just having his period all over the place and then Rhianna singing a hook.

Braveheart81 said on the 16th May, 2011

I think Sara raises some excellent points.

In many ways the subject nature of Tyler's music and Goblin shows his immaturity.

In a few years he'll probably realise how inappropriate most of his subject matter was.

Maximillian Billion said on the 16th May, 2011

I agree with pretty much everything she has said, but I'm sure if I had any interest in Tyler's music I might find it harder to agree.

berlinchair101 said on the 16th May, 2011

I think Sara raises some excellent points.

In many ways the subject nature of Tyler's music and Goblin shows his immaturity.

In a few years he'll probably realise how inappropriate most of his subject matter was.

That day is not today.

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SlowerQuieter said on the 16th May, 2011

I think Sara raises some excellent points.

In many ways the subject nature of Tyler's music and Goblin shows his immaturity.

In a few years he'll probably realise how inappropriate most of his subject matter was.

I'm not so sure she quite understands how to discern between fact and fiction though. It's not as if he's saying he actually does all those things. If you listen closer to the album, he is actually actively discouraging those types of actions by showing the psychological effect they have on their perpetrators.

Braveheart81 said on the 16th May, 2011

That day is not today.

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Probably hard to come up with a more juvenile response.

berlinchair101 said on the 16th May, 2011

I like OFWGKTA, but I honestly think he just thinks the word faggot is a funny insult.

Maximillian Billion said on the 16th May, 2011

Maybe thats part of the problem, that you have to listen closer in order to work out he isn't being serious? Mind you, I haven't listened to much of it in depth, it's not really my thing.

dream_brother said on the 16th May, 2011

She definitely raises some good points, but at the end of the day I think the only concern and distaste of it all lies with the retarded fanbase that aren't able to associate the difference between art and reality.

Yes, using the term art is somewhat retarded, but as Tyler has said himself, Tarantino movies receive all forms of praise and much less backlash (which is relevant when you consider the amount of offensive material he incorporates into his movies).

Tyler is still young and immature, and it's fair to say that years down the track these songs will be a distant memory. Being a female gay, I can see why Tegan (or Sara?) might take offense to the subject matter. But I deem myself someone with enough brain power to be able to understand the concepts he's putting forward. Sure, I wouldn't want my kids listening to this record (nor do I really feel great about half the tards out there thinking "Dis shit is epik brah"), but it would be nice if people could appreciate concepts and ideas for what they are (yet I am also willing to accept that, in part, perhaps my feelings towards the whole matter are an indication of my own immaturity).

Braveheart81 said on the 16th May, 2011

To me that is kind of irrelevant though. The initial impression you get as a listener is certainly that Tyler is homophobic and mysoginistic. At that point the damage is probably already done.

SlowerQuieter said on the 16th May, 2011

That's true. I still think the backlash against him is a bit harsh though - if an artist painted a picture of a brutal murder for example, it's not as if everyone would start thinking they were a murderer.

tyler07 said on the 16th May, 2011

That twitter response is disgusting. Tegan or Sara make an interesting and eloquent argument and he responds with something so juvenile and offensive. Regardless of whether you fap to his music or not, the dude is an arrogant tool who deserves to be called out.

SlowerQuieter said on the 16th May, 2011

Enter Tyler07 the Creator.

tyler07 said on the 16th May, 2011

...haha

SlowerQuieter said on the 16th May, 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO5ItBGxCtc

mooney88 said on the 16th May, 2011

Fuck you Faggot i will rape your mother with a chainsaw.

OMG guys i was just joking. Dont you understand art?

Stefan Beck said on the 16th May, 2011

It's not like the word faggot has power these days anyway.

MilkySheep said on the 16th May, 2011

LOL @ Little Goblins.

Would someone that is really a homophobe dress up as a woman, film it and put it on the internet?

berlinchair101 said on the 16th May, 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoPybh5G8jE&feature=related

grattan said on the 16th May, 2011

Fantastic article in the New Yorker - very detailed history of the group, with a focus on Earl and Tyler.

page 1: http://i.imgur.com/utvan.png
page 2: http://i.imgur.com/FZ95H.png
page 3: http://i.imgur.com/lVtGg.png
page 4: http://i.imgur.com/jEQQ9.png
page 5: http://i.imgur.com/ewthn.png
page 6: http://i.imgur.com/Q0bSY.png
page 7: http://i.imgur.com/8jiGp.png
page 8: http://i.imgur.com/1DcON.png
page 9: http://i.imgur.com/yI5yF.png

SlowerQuieter said on the 16th May, 2011

Stefan Beck said on the 17th May, 2011

That was pretty goddamn fascinating.

grattan said on the 18th May, 2011

Odd Future Show Ends in Bottle-Throwing Fight

"The First One During The First Song Was Whatever, Almost Hitting Syd, We Got Over It. The Second One Went Right Past Domos Face, Landing Near Syds Feet, Almost Cutting Her Up. She Said Fuck It And Wasnt Gonna Wait For The 3rd One To Do Any Damage. Which Was Thrown 30 Seconds Later. Sorry Guys, But When you Are Throwing Big Ass Glass Bottles On Stage, Niggas Is Not Going To Wait Until One Cracks Then In The Head Or Shatters And Gets In Their Eyes Or What Ever."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDEyBBiqJ58&feature=player_embedded

grattan said on the 21st Jun, 2011

Earl in Samoa update - Earl Sweatshirt's Coral Reef Academy Friend Says "New Yorker" Story Is False

grattan said on the 16th Aug, 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmVQhwQVINA

random_hero said on the 16th Aug, 2011

funny MAB goes off if some one says something about gay people but yet likes Tyler the Creator who bags out gays interesting

Stefan Beck said on the 16th Aug, 2011

I hope some guy sodomizes you one day.

SlowerQuieter said on the 16th Aug, 2011

One of the klassix.

random_hero said on the 16th Aug, 2011

the MAB apologists are out in force

Stefan Beck said on the 16th Aug, 2011

Nah,I've just nominated myself the chairman of the "Unfunny Trolls Can Go Get Fucked" Society.

So either start being funny or take your continual stream of homophobic,small-minded shit elsewhere.

SlowerQuieter said on the 16th Aug, 2011

From here on this shall be known as 'The Beck Ultimatum'. ;)

random_hero said on the 17th Aug, 2011

Nah,I've just nominated myself the chairman of the "Unfunny Trolls Can Go Get Fucked" Society.

So either start being funny or take your continual stream of homophobic,small-minded shit elsewhere.

http://flame2d.tk/u-mad1.jpg

its really funny you know MAB can say what he likes about bogans and people from western sydney and its all lolworthy and funny making fun of those people but when you turn it back on him and make fun of him being gay you get all butthurt and cry like a bitch.

people in glass houses my friend, people in glass houses

Stefan Beck said on the 17th Aug, 2011

An apt comparison, homosexuals and bogans/Western Sydney-siders do face similar struggles regarding public acceptance.
Just the other day I read about a group of defenceless bogans being set upon by a violent mob.

Pull your head out of your ass.

Braveheart81 said on the 17th Aug, 2011

its really funny you know MAB can say what he likes about bogans and people from western sydney and its all lolworthy and funny making fun of those people but when you turn it back on him and make fun of him being gay you get all butthurt and cry like a bitch.

people in glass houses my friend, people in glass houses

Glass houses?

Are you saying that bogans from Western Sydney are actually gay?

berlinchair101 said on the 17th Aug, 2011

As a resident of bogan central, I say all bogans deserve what's coming to them... a teenage pregancy.

random_hero said on the 17th Aug, 2011

An apt comparison, homosexuals and bogans/Western Sydney-siders do face similar struggles regarding public acceptance.
Just the other day I read about a group of defenceless bogans being set upon by a violent mob.

Pull your head out of your ass.

do gays have tv shows making fun of them like bogans/western sydney people do? no they dont

yes they do get discriminated against due to the local where they live and stereotyping that they receive

it makes me laugh seriously you hate people bagging out gays but yet you see fit to bag out bogans and people from western sydney

the hypocrisy is lolworthy

SlowerQuieter said on the 17th Aug, 2011

*hypocrisy

berlinchair101 said on the 17th Aug, 2011

Random_Hero is a faggot.

http://englishcafecdn.englishcafe.com/files/images/ec_8693_1275191693.post.jpg

random_hero said on the 17th Aug, 2011

that is offensive you homophobe

berlinchair101 said on the 17th Aug, 2011

Only if you are a bundle of sticks.

Quicky said on the 17th Aug, 2011

I hope they come back for BDO

tyler07 said on the 17th Aug, 2011

Pretty sure we can all live without anymore increases in the bogan population...

Do you only post in threads now concerning Odd Future in case you have to defend them? Or have I missed something?

SlowerQuieter said on the 17th Aug, 2011

You've missed something.

tyler07 said on the 17th Aug, 2011

I'm listening...

SlowerQuieter said on the 17th Aug, 2011

Just that I post in other threads as well, and that not every OF-related post of mine is in defence of them. The post you referred to was a correction of a spelling mistake, not sure how you can draw that parallel.

tyler07 said on the 17th Aug, 2011

I wasn't 'drawing that parallel' in that post in particular. It's more, you went from somebody that I regularly saw posting on FL to somebody that I hardly ever seem to see, but when I do, it's normally a defensive response to somebody criticising OF/Tyler i.e. Steve Albini-related posts.

PS - Don't take this the wrong way, I'm certainly not having a go at your or anything. I was just curious.

grattan said on the 17th Aug, 2011

Ah, quit squabbling and go listen to Tyler's summer mix tape:

Sleep (Feat. Coco O) – Homebase NYC
Gangsta Lean (Feat. Pharrell) – Clipse
Why You Wanna – T.I.
Imprint After – Toro Y Moi
Fuck All Nite (Feat. Pharrell) – Jay-Z
Jake Ryan – Summer Camp
Hey Ma (Feat. Juelz Santana) – Cam’ron
Gone Baby, Don’t Be Long – Erykah Badu
Yeah You – N.E.R.D
Party (Feat. Andre 3000) – Beyonce
Slow Country – Gorillaz
Frontin’ (Feat. Jay-Z) – Pharrell
How I Know – Toro Y Moi
Analog (Feat. Hodgy Beats) – Tyler, the Creator
Unknown New Tyler, the Creator Song
Black Lake – Real Estate
Weekend – Smith Westerns
Have It All (Feat. Pharrell) – Gucci Mane
A Long Walk – Jill Scott
Too High – Stevie Wonder
I Get Around – 2Pac
Drunk (Feat. Mike G) – Domo Genesis
Ready, Able – Grizzly Bear
Let’s Get Blown (Feat. Pharrell) – Snoop Dogg
A Chip In The Hand – James Pants
Outstanding – Gap Band

SlowerQuieter said on the 17th Aug, 2011

I posted regularly until it got to the point that almost every post I made was mercilessly picked apart by practically everyone else. That's fair enough, everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but at that point I figured there wasn't much sense in posting if all my contributions were perceived as a bunch of hipster trash, so I decided to avoid sparking the ire of the rest of the FL community.

As much as I love music (though apparently I only listen to what Pitchfork tells me to), I could see that things were getting beyond just a few jokes and people wanted me gone (which I fully respect, that's why I've scaled back in my FL activity). I honestly don't mean to upset anyone, I actually consider myself a very relaxed and easy-going guy in real life.

SlowerQuieter said on the 17th Aug, 2011

Ah, quit squabbling and go listen to Tyler's summer mix tape:

Sleep (Feat. Coco O) – Homebase NYC
Gangsta Lean (Feat. Pharrell) – Clipse
Why You Wanna – T.I.
Imprint After – Toro Y Moi
Fuck All Nite (Feat. Pharrell) – Jay-Z
Jake Ryan – Summer Camp
Hey Ma (Feat. Juelz Santana) – Cam’ron
Gone Baby, Don’t Be Long – Erykah Badu
Yeah You – N.E.R.D
Party (Feat. Andre 3000) – Beyonce
Slow Country – Gorillaz
Frontin’ (Feat. Jay-Z) – Pharrell
How I Know – Toro Y Moi
Analog (Feat. Hodgy Beats) – Tyler, the Creator
Unknown New Tyler, the Creator Song
Black Lake – Real Estate
Weekend – Smith Westerns
Have It All (Feat. Pharrell) – Gucci Mane
A Long Walk – Jill Scott
Too High – Stevie Wonder
I Get Around – 2Pac
Drunk (Feat. Mike G) – Domo Genesis
Ready, Able – Grizzly Bear
Let’s Get Blown (Feat. Pharrell) – Snoop Dogg
A Chip In The Hand – James Pants
Outstanding – Gap Band

Nabbed this a few weeks back, it's been on pretty high rotation in my iTunes library. The dude has pretty good taste.

tyler07 said on the 17th Aug, 2011

I posted regularly until it got to the point that almost every post I made was mercilessly picked apart by practically everyone else. That's fair enough, everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but at that point I figured there wasn't much sense in posting if all my contributions were perceived as a bunch of hipster trash, so I decided to avoid sparking the ire of the rest of the FL community.

As much as I love music (though apparently I only listen to what Pitchfork tells me to), I could see that things were getting beyond just a few jokes and people wanted me gone (which I fully respect, that's why I've scaled back in my FL activity). I honestly don't mean to upset anyone, I actually consider myself a very relaxed and easy-going guy in real life.

I was more just curious as I enjoyed the threads and the 'ire sparking' you speak of. You gotta add your own flavour bro, fuck the hataz.

SlowerQuieter said on the 17th Aug, 2011

I honestly wasn't trying to raise hell at all, I am a pretty chilled guy. That was never my objective.

Just wanted to say also that I've been very impressed by your maturity of late, it's really good to see (I'm not trying to imply that you were immature before, just that you're more mature now, if that makes sense).

Stefan Beck said on the 17th Aug, 2011

SQ, for the record I don't dislike you, I simply think you have an alternative sense of humour.

By all means come back to full-time posting.

SlowerQuieter said on the 17th Aug, 2011

SQ, for the record I don't dislike you, I simply think you have an alternative sense of humour.

By all means come back to full-time posting.

I respect you for saying that, and I don't dislike you either, you seem like a pretty nice guy. But I don't think my forum contributions have gone down particularly well overall and the place is probably better off without me tbh. I'll still post occasionally though, simply because I enjoy discussing music.

berlinchair101 said on the 18th Aug, 2011

I totally miss SQ posting. I don't think anybody hated you at all. I quite like you!

Braveheart81 said on the 18th Aug, 2011

Me too.

I feel quite bad now.

I never realised the evil power behind ^latfh.

lineofbestfit said on the 18th Aug, 2011

they are nothing but a hype band for the scene kids to get into a hip hop bmth if you will, kinda like skrillex and lmao are the electronic bmth.

jettimon said on the 18th Aug, 2011

Words from Steve regarding Odd Future

http://www.electricalaudio.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=53523&p=1374892#p1374892

random_hero said on the 31st Aug, 2011

its a disgrace he got an MTV music award

sarcasm_mister said on the 31st Aug, 2011

*patiently waits for tyler the creator reality show*

any ideas for names?

random_hero said on the 31st Aug, 2011

it will be called rape a pregnant chick and call it a 3sum

Slip_dog said on the 31st Aug, 2011

homo

random_hero said on the 31st Aug, 2011

slip_dog you will upset MAB with that kind of language

ThatDude123 said on the 1st Sep, 2011

Reason No.35 to never ban trolls: the love-hate relationship random_hero and Slip_dog have for each other.

Quicky said on the 9th Sep, 2011

Keen for Odd Future at BDO next year. I would love to see a show of theirs at the Enmore Theatre.

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