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Harvest Festival @ WerribeeMansion, Melbourne (12/11/11)

On the epic train journey from Southern Cross to Werribee, there was plenty of time for both anticipation and trepidation. The line-up was exciting, but much of the talk ahead of Melbourne’s inaugural Harvest Festival was centred on the rumoured logistical problems that laid in wait. If some of the worst-case scenarios were to be believed, the festival’s self-billing as a ‘Civilised Gathering’ threatened to fall apart in a late night lord of the flies-type scenario in the wilds of Werribee, as thousands of punters missed the last train back to Melbourne. So, how did the day play out? ‘Boutique’ indie daydream, or anarcho-primitivist nightmare?

The first phase of the day progressed well. The Werribee Mansion site was beautiful and bathed in sunshine. Gen X-ers wore band t-shirts, young babes dressed like young babes. Everyone seemed happy with this. In fact, one got the sense that people were minding their manners more than usual in the glorious surrounds. Site entry was straightforward, and the security presence displayed impeccable manners. The Holidays were a tad dull, as always, and the Hypnotic Brass Ensemble did as their name suggested. Dappled Cities played a fine set of mild mannered indie pop, and The Family Stone were comically cheerful, providing a liberal dollop of cheesy fun in the sun.

The Walkmen remain bizarrely under-appreciated, and demonstrated an early festival tendency; bands with great singers are better able to deal with the many pitfalls – dodgy sound, lack of atmosphere, winning over an indifferent crowd – of a festival performance. Squinting into the sunlight on the Windmill Stage, rechristened the ‘boggy paddock’ stage by punters, Hamilton Leithauser commanded attention, and his commanding performance of The Rat was a sound for sore ears.

Meanwhile, PVT gamely ignored the fact that the line for the bar snaked all the way through their audience, and played a magnificent set. While undoubtedly a cerebral band, PVT still managed to have fun with the crowd and each other. Festival lesson number two; have fun! People like fun.

Next was TV on the Radio, hitting the main stage at the strangely early time of 4:30pm. A band with a back catalogue like theirs can’t truly miss the mark, but they were a little flat, lacking the confidence to let their dense, tangled compositions stand for themselves in the expansive surrounds. Kyp Malone and Dave Sitek were most culpable, choking some wonderful songs in layers of muddy guitar. However, nothing can dull the likes of Wolf Like Me, which went down a storm with the faithful.

Compared to this, Mercury Rev’s efforts at the boggy paddock stage left plenty to be desired. When booking more venerable bands, it’s important to check their recent output, as well as the classics. Mercury Rev’s career-defining Deserter’s Songs is thirteen years old, and while they snuck in the likes of Endlessly, Holes and other favourites, there was still a lot of unremarkable guitar jams by a band that was once capable of a lot more.

By contrast, Claps Your Hands Say Yeah were completely aware of their role, drawing heavily from their eponymous debut, much to the delight of the increasingly lathered-up crowd. Alec Ounsworth and co. have played enough festivals to know that by dusk, crowds don’t want to be challenged, they want The Skin Of My Yellow Country Teeth. Thanks guys.

Bright Eyes’ Conor Oberst was in a similarly crowd-pleasing mood, whipping out some stage moves that made a mockery of his reputation for narrow-eyed intensity. Oberst and band gave it the works, the singer hammily miming along to his own tangled lyrics, offering rejoinders, and dedicating I Believe In Symmetry to the handful of scientists in the audience. Favourites from throughout his prolific career were tackled with gusto, from Shell Games to Four Winds to Lua to Lover I Don’t Have To Love. Closing with a deranged version of Road To Joy, Oberst provided another festival lesson; if you’re not much of a singer, you’d best be damned charismatic.

However, the mood was perceptibly changing. The farcical lines that snaked out of the festival’s three licenced bars remained as long as ever, but festival-goers were emerging with cranky expressions and ever-stranger drink selections; vodka and lemonade, whiskey and dry, and other less than palatable premixes. Yes, the beer had run out, with the sun still high overhead. The toilet queue was similarly brutal, to the point that renegade elements from both sexes began resorting to the ample cover of the trees in the adjacent car-parking area. The food situation completed a triple-crown of shoddy on-site logistics. It can really dampen one’s mood to spend a half-hour lining up for a cajun wrap, only to have the stall run out of food and close up shop.

Of course, none of this was The National’s fault. The New Yorkers did, however, suffer from the same malaise as TV on the Radio. The brilliance of songs like Fake Empire and Sorrow is that it can feel like the world’s most eloquent drunk is mumbling in your ear. Unfortunately, Matt Berninger was reduced to barking at an expansive field of people that were hungry, thirsty, and dying for a piss. Still, the band was seriously tight, though maybe lacking restraint, and sounded pretty good from this reviewer’s vantage point, in the line for cajun wraps.

Back at the Windmill Stage, Mogwai were laying out a typically assured post-rock set. I’m not sure how it would’ve sounded whilst sipping an alcopop, but it sounded pretty good whilst waiting in line for pizza. Hunted By A Freak was amazing.

Portishead were, put simply, stunning. Their signature song, Glory Box, sounded incredible . They blended old and new material seamlessly, shifting from cinematic to deranged at the flick of a switch. The crucial difference was that the band had sufficient faith in their songs to just play them, and let the sublime Beth Gibbons weave her spell over the audience. The woman can sing, but her performance was the revelation. In the set-closing Threads, her passion was terrifying. As a festival highlight, it was going to be difficult to top.

For those that ventured back up to the Windmill stage, despite the risks, The Flaming Lips did all that was promised, but no more. With their starting time already pushed back by Portishead’s nsistence that no other band share their airwaves (Phosphorescent cheekily did just this over at the Big Red Tractor Stage), the Lips started still later thanks to the logistical practical joke that is their stage show. After a symbolic birthing (the band emerging from the glowing crotch of a projected woman), Wayne Coyne hopped in his bubble and toured the audience, while the band struck up Black Sabbath’s Sweet Leaf, of all things. There was Do You Realise??, there was the Yeah Yeah Yeah Song, and there was She Don’t Use Jelly. And not much else, unfortunately. The Lips tried to cram in a crowd-pleasing set in the time available, but it was more a sampler than anything else.

And so to the main event, getting home. It was an epic wait, made worse by the mixed messages from the promoters in the days leading up to the event (‘Catch the train! Actually, drive! Actually, just leave during The Flaming Lips! Actually, just get a charter bus!’). For all the talk of getting left behind, the shuttle bus system moved relatively smoothly, with buses that missed the last train in Werribee simply heading all the way to Southern Cross. Those that were spooked into driving, however, had to endure massive, buzz-killing bottlenecks. However, no one was left behind. Some may have gotten home at 3am, but they did get home.

There’s so much more to a festival than it’s line-up. Harvest definitely seem to understand this, and there was a sense of goodwill that transcended some of the day’s shittier aspects. Even the bands that failed to really catch fire still put in serviceable sets; this was a definite upside to ignoring buzz-bands and going for pedigree. All in all there was so much to like about Harvest that by this time next year, it’s many teething problems are bound to be forgiven.

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rtanweb

rtanweb said on the 13th Nov, 2011

i just returned from the gathering / harvest festival over at werribee, melbourne.

i strongly urge anyone considering attending to give it a miss. this was by far the worst live music festival i have ever been to in my nearly 36 years.
let me explain from the beginning:

the horror started at the entry gate, where a crew of indian students dressed as security guards, where performing bag and person searches on the arriving public.

despite written promised to contrary by the event organisers, the security promptly took and binned our food container into the rubbish bin. this is a daylong event, but i guess the ploy is to force people to buy from the overpriced vendors inside.

i tried to protest this, and asked to speak to the students (or security guards, as the case might be) supervisor, as i knew for a fact that food was meant to be allowed. i was told to go through and wait on the other side for five minutes, while he radios his "boss".

that was a lie, as i waited for over 45 minutes and no one came to speak with me. trouble is, because organisers refuse to give a pass-out, i could not return outside to speak to the "security" again. what a convenient arrangement for a dodgy operator!

a little pissed off, but hopeful to enjoy the rest of the day, i gave up waiting & ventured deeper in. the first, and the main feature of this event was "the line". the line to the bathroom, at its peak, stretched hundreds of meters long and spanned near the entire event ground. it was so long and slow moving that large proportion of people were defecating and urinating outside, often in the thin bushes in plain view of other revellers. i guess not ordering sufficient number of cheap plastic toilets saved the event bosses a few dollars. how much for human dignity of not pooping in front of strangers in the open?

the next major problem was getting food. while lines where a little shorter, they were agonisingly slow moving. and because the kiosks were positioned along the main footpath, it created a situation where you could not get from stage a to stage b without getting stuck in a maze of different lines of people.

i saved the worst problem for last: the "alcohol scam". yes, i think it was a deliberate scam by the organisers. in order to buy alcohol you are offered to exchange your real money for "coupons", and then take these coupons and exchange them for booze at one of the bars. there were so many places to buy these coupons that there was no lines at all, the organisers where very keen to take your cash. but afterwards, when you find a bar, you realise that the longest and slowest line of people is the bar! and now you have a decision to make - either you spend next few hours in this line to try and get rid of the coupons, or give up in order to catch a few bands. but if you give up, and don't cash in your coupons, and you lose all your money. it sure feels like a scam!

to conclude, some statistics:

time spent waiting in lines: 4.5 hours++

bands seen: 1

songs heard: 3

money spent: $252 + travel costs.

would you pay 250 bucks to stand a line for 4 and a half hours?

enjoy!

Jestarrr

Jestarrr said on the 13th Nov, 2011

i just returned from the gathering / harvest festival over at werribee, melbourne.

i strongly urge anyone considering attending to give it a miss. this was by far the worst live music festival i have ever been to in my nearly 36 years.
let me explain from the beginning:

the horror started at the entry gate, where a crew of indian students dressed as security guards, where performing bag and person searches on the arriving public.

despite written promised to contrary by the event organisers, the security promptly took and binned our food container into the rubbish bin. this is a daylong event, but i guess the ploy is to force people to buy from the overpriced vendors inside.

i tried to protest this, and asked to speak to the students (or security guards, as the case might be) supervisor, as i knew for a fact that food was meant to be allowed. i was told to go through and wait on the other side for five minutes, while he radios his "boss".

that was a lie, as i waited for over 45 minutes and no one came to speak with me. trouble is, because organisers refuse to give a pass-out, i could not return outside to speak to the "security" again. what a convenient arrangement for a dodgy operator!

a little pissed off, but hopeful to enjoy the rest of the day, i gave up waiting & ventured deeper in. the first, and the main feature of this event was "the line". the line to the bathroom, at its peak, stretched hundreds of meters long and spanned near the entire event ground. it was so long and slow moving that large proportion of people were defecating and urinating outside, often in the thin bushes in plain view of other revellers. i guess not ordering sufficient number of cheap plastic toilets saved the event bosses a few dollars. how much for human dignity of not pooping in front of strangers in the open?

the next major problem was getting food. while lines where a little shorter, they were agonisingly slow moving. and because the kiosks were positioned along the main footpath, it created a situation where you could not get from stage a to stage b without getting stuck in a maze of different lines of people.

i saved the worst problem for last: the "alcohol scam". yes, i think it was a deliberate scam by the organisers. in order to buy alcohol you are offered to exchange your real money for "coupons", and then take these coupons and exchange them for booze at one of the bars. there were so many places to buy these coupons that there was no lines at all, the organisers where very keen to take your cash. but afterwards, when you find a bar, you realise that the longest and slowest line of people is the bar! and now you have a decision to make - either you spend next few hours in this line to try and get rid of the coupons, or give up in order to catch a few bands. but if you give up, and don't cash in your coupons, and you lose all your money. it sure feels like a scam!

to conclude, some statistics:

time spent waiting in lines: 4.5 hours++

bands seen: 1

songs heard: 3

money spent: $252 + travel costs.

would you pay 250 bucks to stand a line for 4 and a half hours?

enjoy!


you are what is wrong with Australian music festivals. stop lining up, you don't need to be pissed to see music.
the security were fine. you were allowed one sandwich, not a container. no one was 'pooping' outside. sure, by the end of the night some people may have been pissing in the open, but that's how it is at all fests.

personally -

time spent waiting in lines: 5 minutes for some food at the start, be smarter about these things.

bands seen: 10

songs heard: countless

money spent: $150 ticket + $15 for food.

RAMONESelaar

RAMONESelaar said on the 13th Nov, 2011

i just returned from the gathering / harvest festival over at werribee, melbourne.

i strongly urge anyone considering attending to give it a miss. this was by far the worst live music festival i have ever been to in my nearly 36 years.
let me explain from the beginning:

the horror started at the entry gate, where a crew of indian students dressed as security guards, where performing bag and person searches on the arriving public.

despite written promised to contrary by the event organisers, the security promptly took and binned our food container into the rubbish bin. this is a daylong event, but i guess the ploy is to force people to buy from the overpriced vendors inside.

i tried to protest this, and asked to speak to the students (or security guards, as the case might be) supervisor, as i knew for a fact that food was meant to be allowed. i was told to go through and wait on the other side for five minutes, while he radios his "boss".

that was a lie, as i waited for over 45 minutes and no one came to speak with me. trouble is, because organisers refuse to give a pass-out, i could not return outside to speak to the "security" again. what a convenient arrangement for a dodgy operator!

a little pissed off, but hopeful to enjoy the rest of the day, i gave up waiting & ventured deeper in. the first, and the main feature of this event was "the line". the line to the bathroom, at its peak, stretched hundreds of meters long and spanned near the entire event ground. it was so long and slow moving that large proportion of people were defecating and urinating outside, often in the thin bushes in plain view of other revellers. i guess not ordering sufficient number of cheap plastic toilets saved the event bosses a few dollars. how much for human dignity of not pooping in front of strangers in the open?

the next major problem was getting food. while lines where a little shorter, they were agonisingly slow moving. and because the kiosks were positioned along the main footpath, it created a situation where you could not get from stage a to stage b without getting stuck in a maze of different lines of people.

i saved the worst problem for last: the "alcohol scam". yes, i think it was a deliberate scam by the organisers. in order to buy alcohol you are offered to exchange your real money for "coupons", and then take these coupons and exchange them for booze at one of the bars. there were so many places to buy these coupons that there was no lines at all, the organisers where very keen to take your cash. but afterwards, when you find a bar, you realise that the longest and slowest line of people is the bar! and now you have a decision to make - either you spend next few hours in this line to try and get rid of the coupons, or give up in order to catch a few bands. but if you give up, and don't cash in your coupons, and you lose all your money. it sure feels like a scam!

to conclude, some statistics:

time spent waiting in lines: 4.5 hours++

bands seen: 1

songs heard: 3

money spent: $252 + travel costs.

would you pay 250 bucks to stand a line for 4 and a half hours?

enjoy!

lern2festival

chico21

chico21 said on the 14th Nov, 2011

i just returned from the gathering / harvest festival over at werribee, melbourne.

i strongly urge anyone considering attending to give it a miss. this was by far the worst live music festival i have ever been to in my nearly 36 years.
let me explain from the beginning:

the horror started at the entry gate, where a crew of indian students dressed as security guards, where performing bag and person searches on the arriving public.

despite written promised to contrary by the event organisers, the security promptly took and binned our food container into the rubbish bin. this is a daylong event, but i guess the ploy is to force people to buy from the overpriced vendors inside.

i tried to protest this, and asked to speak to the students (or security guards, as the case might be) supervisor, as i knew for a fact that food was meant to be allowed. i was told to go through and wait on the other side for five minutes, while he radios his "boss".

that was a lie, as i waited for over 45 minutes and no one came to speak with me. trouble is, because organisers refuse to give a pass-out, i could not return outside to speak to the "security" again. what a convenient arrangement for a dodgy operator!

a little pissed off, but hopeful to enjoy the rest of the day, i gave up waiting & ventured deeper in. the first, and the main feature of this event was "the line". the line to the bathroom, at its peak, stretched hundreds of meters long and spanned near the entire event ground. it was so long and slow moving that large proportion of people were defecating and urinating outside, often in the thin bushes in plain view of other revellers. i guess not ordering sufficient number of cheap plastic toilets saved the event bosses a few dollars. how much for human dignity of not pooping in front of strangers in the open?

the next major problem was getting food. while lines where a little shorter, they were agonisingly slow moving. and because the kiosks were positioned along the main footpath, it created a situation where you could not get from stage a to stage b without getting stuck in a maze of different lines of people.

i saved the worst problem for last: the "alcohol scam". yes, i think it was a deliberate scam by the organisers. in order to buy alcohol you are offered to exchange your real money for "coupons", and then take these coupons and exchange them for booze at one of the bars. there were so many places to buy these coupons that there was no lines at all, the organisers where very keen to take your cash. but afterwards, when you find a bar, you realise that the longest and slowest line of people is the bar! and now you have a decision to make - either you spend next few hours in this line to try and get rid of the coupons, or give up in order to catch a few bands. but if you give up, and don't cash in your coupons, and you lose all your money. it sure feels like a scam!

to conclude, some statistics:

time spent waiting in lines: 4.5 hours++

bands seen: 1

songs heard: 3

money spent: $252 + travel costs.

would you pay 250 bucks to stand a line for 4 and a half hours?

enjoy!

lolrant

mate have you ever been to a festival? you ALWAYS get your bags searched and are not allowed food & drink to most.

and what does their nationality matter?

from all reports harvest in sydney was awesome.

ThatDude123

ThatDude123 said on the 14th Nov, 2011

Okay I'm bored, it's a hot night, so I'm going to dissect this piece of shit argument/recount



Good to know



I have a feeling that despite your "36 years" you haven't been to enough music festivals. even if it was as bad as you describe, I've been to worse music fests and I'm what? 21?

I've also heard worse horror stories. Ever had to stand in a stationary line in the California desert sun for 6 hours while the world-renown festival you paid for plays beyond the gates? Or been beaten by security and thrown out despite waiting patiently and calmly since the beginning of the day for your all-time favourite band because a fight broke out behind you that you had no involvement in? And these happened at long-running fests respected for their streamlined logistics.

let me explain from the beginning:

the horror started at the entry gate, where a crew of indian students dressed as security guards, where performing bag and person searches on the arriving public.

This is condescending and racist. Every state has a security guard licensing system. If you had an issue with the work ethic of the security at a festival, you can and should have requested their ID. Otherwise shut your fucking jingoistic mouth.

despite written promised to contrary by the event organisers, the security promptly took and binned our food container into the rubbish bin. this is a daylong event, but i guess the ploy is to force people to buy from the overpriced vendors inside.

i tried to protest this, and asked to speak to the students (or security guards, as the case might be) supervisor, as i knew for a fact that food was meant to be allowed. i was told to go through and wait on the other side for five minutes, while he radios his "boss".

The keyword here, unfortunately for you is container. Lids are known projectiles at these sorts of fests, and crowd control have enough trouble with cans and rubbish being thrown on-stage. If you had taken your food out of the container given them that and kept your lunch I have a feeling you would have been fine.



Yet again, I have a feeling you fucked it up for yourself. In this case, you may have walked too far (past the ticket scanners, yes?). Any bet security's supervisor was waiting WITH the security staff member.



I don't believe for a second there were people defecating. Women crouch when they pee, yes. I've seen this happen in other festivals several times when women just couldn't handle lines any more. Also if this was such an issue wouldn't someone have called those draconian "Indian students dressed as security"? At Sydney the place was swarming with volunteers, every second one with a radio. surely one of them would have been annoyed by the smell of shit.



The line issue, I will concede. I think, as Solo pointed out, that you had to remember that this was an AJ festival: it was always going to have teething problems because he's an artist booker not a festival promoter. Thankfully he learnt some lessons from Melbourne and fixed them for sydney but we still had some issues (like the convoluted belief that a whole Flips stage show could be set up and soundchecked in 30 minutes)



A scam which has now been fixed, but then again, knowing how much you got your knickers in a twist you may have ripped all your tickets up the second you got home.

Now yes, despite the fact that half this forum has suddenly turned straight edge in defence of these issues and that I can't drink anymore so I wouldn't have cared, I will admit that having a nice drink and watching a good band is key to the festival experience. If you cant have that (or, if the reports are true, you could only have that with premixers after 4pm) then that was a clear stuff-up. Yet again, though, I can't judge from personal experience as they seemed to fix everything that went wrong in Melbourne for Sydney

to conclude, some statistics:

time spent waiting in lines: 4.5 hours++

bands seen: 1

songs heard: 3

money spent: $252 + travel costs.

would you pay 250 bucks to stand a line for 4 and a half hours?

enjoy!


First, where the fuck did you get the $252 figure from? Unless you paid for the ticket of your significant other as well you got scammed hard

You've been posting this on every known music website, screaming and whinging, but i want to know: have you tried talking directly to AJ? I mean, he isnt the hardest man to contact. He responds to about 90% of mentions on twitter and I bet if you found an email for the guy he'd reply in a heartbeat.

But aside from all that, I reiterate that even if everything that you say went wrong at this festival did, it's still hardly the worst festival experience ever. And even if you were in line for 4.5 hours plus the hour lost to security, that still leaves half a day to enjoy some great bands. Unless, of course, you came late in which case why?

tl;dr you raise about two valid points but you still need to lern2festival

/endrant

Tybekofu

Tybekofu said on the 15th Nov, 2011

i totally agree with rtanweb.....

harvest festival's "gathering" was by far, the worst festival i have attended in the last ten plus years. i was particularly disappointed as festival organisers advertised this event to be more 'up-market' and with 'better facilities' than the norm.

the "gathering" consisted of punters 'gathering' in absurdly long queues to purchase coupons, drinks, food and toilets. to top it off, i 'gathered' in line, waiting over 90 minutes in the heat to get to the bar, only to be informed my top three drink selections had 'run out'.

the toilets were also a major drama. at least 30 minutes 'gathering' in line, waiting for a loo. the cubicles i had to use (busting), had run out of water to flush and to wash my hands!!!! what the???? did event organisers consider it reasonable for punters to be forced to add to an ever increasing pile of excrement???? the werribee mansion gardens are really beautiful, usually i would frown upon anyone defecating behind trees, or pissing on the lawns; but in this situation i believe it would have been a healthier option.

as for the food..... i chose to starve...... i'd wasted too many hours 'gathering' in queues to miss any more bands. besides, the chances of alcohol's increased effects on an empty stomach were nil due to the enormous queues to the bar.

the one highlight was portishead. simply brilliant. i cannot adequately describe their impeccable performance....

here's my stats:
* full band sets seen ... 1
* partial sets ... 4
* time waiting for coupons ... 1 hour
* time waiting for drinks ... 4 hours
* time waiting for food ... 1 hour
* time waiting for toilets ... 1.5 hours
* time wasted taking pix of a baby possum ... 15 minutes
* time spent debating on whether to stay or leave ... 2.5 hours
* money spent ... bugger-all ... came home with a couple of hundred plus, (more than i expected). will put the extra cash toward the 'better' festivals i'm attending in a couple of months time. :-)

one last thing.... my sympathy to the bands in the 'windmill' area..... shit sound, blinded by the sun, zoo poo aroma wafting through the air, playing to a mixture of audience and annoyed punters lined-up for coupons, drinks etc. not a good vibe.....

harvest festival ..... a major thumbs down !!!