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Muse Australian tour

Thu 27th May, 2010 in Local News

After getting their bombast on at the Big Day Out in January, Muse return to Australia to strut their stuff at some super massive arena shows this December.

The three-piece wowed fans on their last visit down under putting on typically theoretical performances which included plenty of lasers, tight pants and of course, a hefty dose of Bellamy shredding. The shows also gave the band a chance to show off tunes from their fifth studio album Resistance, which was described by its FL reviewer as “Muse’s boldest album to date.”

Muse is promising to pull out all the stops for their biggest ever tour of Australia to ensure these are the band’s most spectacular Australian shows ever.

FasterLouder is strapping on our silver pants to present Muse this December:

Sunday 5th December – Brisbane Entertainment Centre, Brisbane
Thursday 9th December – Acer Arena, Sydney
Tuesday 14th December – Rod Laver Arena, December
Sunday 19th December – Bassendean Oval, Perth

Tickets areon general sale on Monday 7th June through ticketek. There will be a muse.mu fan pre-sale on Friday 4th June.

Check out the best moments of Muse playing the Big Day Out

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Alexphotosite

Alexphotosite said on the 28th May, 2010

*BUMP* Edited review above.

Braveheart81

Braveheart81 said on the 28th May, 2010

I can't work out how you've managed to say so little about the actual gig in such a long review.

A word of advice: saying things like Matt's absolutely breathtakingly amazing singing ability! provides absolutely no information to the reader. It is just a list of adjectives.

Your first few paragraphs describing the release of their new album and their previous albums are very hard to comprehend and change tense on several occasions.

If you want to write publishable reviews, you need to do a lot more practice.

brownie-ll

brownie-ll said on the 28th May, 2010

First three paragraphs need to be removed entirely. Too many exclamation points.

Alexphotosite

Alexphotosite said on the 28th May, 2010

I can't work out how you've managed to say so little about the actual gig in such a long review.

A word of advice: saying things like Matt's absolutely breathtakingly amazing singing ability! provides absolutely no information to the reader. It is just a list of adjectives.

Your first few paragraphs describing the release of their new album and their previous albums are very hard to comprehend and change tense on several occasions.

If you want to write publishable reviews, you need to do a lot more practice.

That "list of adjectives" shows the reader that his voice translates live from a studio record, which quite a lot of bands are incapable of.

I kept it to the length it was, where the actual concert is involved, as that was all I could remember from the night. I didn't take down the whole set-list, and as I have mentioned so many times already, this was for personal use. If I were to be given the chance to do this for FL I would have the tools to document the whole experience instead of going just from memory.

The whole part with the albums changes tense as I am describing the different types of fans.

Alexphotosite

Alexphotosite said on the 28th May, 2010

There's only 1 each in the first two paragraphs, the third doesn't feature an exclamation mark and besides, they are warranted.

Braveheart81

Braveheart81 said on the 28th May, 2010

If that's what you meant then say that. Absolutely breathtakingly amazing singing ability gives no indication of that whatsoever. As I said previously it is just a list of adjectives.

It was very cumbersome and difficult to follow. Most readers would just stop reading. You could have got your point across that the new album had a different sound and had attracted a new fanbase in one coherent sentence.

Alexphotosite

Alexphotosite said on the 28th May, 2010

If that's what you meant then say that. Absolutely breathtakingly amazing singing ability gives no indication of that whatsoever. As I said previously it is just a list of adjectives.

Alexphotosite: Ok, note taken...

It was very cumbersome and difficult to follow. Most readers would just stop reading. You could have got your point across that the new album had a different sound and had attracted a new fanbase in one coherent sentence.

Sorry for wanting to create an interesting narrative and atmosphere for people to reflect upon.

Braveheart81

Braveheart81 said on the 28th May, 2010

Fine. I won't provide any critique.

Should I have just lied and said your review was the best I've ever read and there is nothing that should be changed?

gumbuoy

gumbuoy said on the 28th May, 2010

i stopped reading after the third paragraph. does he ever actually talk about the show?

also,

created a divide between fans that were loyal to their earlier material in the previous album Absolution, Showbiz and Origin of Symmetry and old fans who loved the old albums and were ready for this newbie to sink in.

What?

Braveheart81

Braveheart81 said on the 28th May, 2010

He has a defence for any critique of his "review". Apparently it is perfect and Alex is sorry for wanting to create an interesting narrative and atmosphere for people to reflect upon.

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 28th May, 2010

If there's one thing I've learnt, it's that you can't be too defensive of your writing. Take it all on board and get on with it.

Braveheart81

Braveheart81 said on the 28th May, 2010

Your Papa Roach review was much better than his Muse review.

Demosthenes

Demosthenes said on the 28th May, 2010

EDITED:

MUSE set their controls for the heart of the sun!
January 24, 2007
Hordern Pavilion, Sydney

When their fourth studio album dropped mid-way through 2006, created a supermassive response -- and an equally supermassive fan divide. Some held solely to earlier material: Absolution, Showbiz and Origin of Symmetry. Others embraced the new album's over-the-top glam. And there was a myriad of populist bandwagon-jumpers won over as Knights Of Cydonia, Invincible and Starlight all went high rotation on commercial radio.

^^^ Okay, this is what I would do. The bit about Bono and the Edge is a distraction, you don't need it.

In my (not-so) humble opinion, the heart of your review at this point is the new-versus-old divide and how this plays out among the fans, and as the construction and delivery of a live gig by the band.

This is okay. This is in fact, a resonable thing to do for a band with a back catalogue. We play comapre and contrast all the time.

At this point I'd pose a question, something like "but how would it play out live?" just short, to the point. It's a rhetorical device to transition to the action.

Then I'd drop those following two pragraphs because I don't think they add anything. You've already established MUSE's "bigness", once you've sold the point you move on. Once I've bought, there's no need to flog a dead horse.

You also need a transition to deal with the fact you have to talk about Ground Components first. Or, you could return to them at the very end and just go into MUSE. I've seen that done successfully, but not very often.

As if in possession of a Wonka golden ticket, hordes of cheery fans screamed with delight as they passed the security checks leading to the Hordern Pavilion’s glass doors.

I like this: it's good imagery. I killed "welcoming". For a long time, I has a bad habit of over-using adjectives till a editor friend pulled me up and said they were bogging down my prose. Cull as many as you can. Is your copy lean and mean? Long, run-on sentences are death for a writer.

So: keep it snappy. Let verbs do the talking for you where they can. And for fuck's sake, don't use adverbs.

Inside, [i know it's in the performance space you don't need to tell me. I don't need to know it's dark either, unless it's a murder mystery. In fact, this is probably all redundant detail here... so we'll go straight to:] tall, lanky fellows with beers in hand zealously guarded their spots at the barrier. Shorter punters opted for the stalls. All contributed to the din -- foot stomping and chants of "MUSE" were all that could be heard above the PA music. And support outfit Ground Components were yet to begin!

Lights dimmed [it can't be dark and you have the lights dimming, btw] at 7.30 and these scruffy figures lunged themselves into their respective positions. Lead singer [insert name here!] tried to get the audience onside by shouting "Hello Sydney!" but [adverb misuse] the band's samey grunge rock wore off halfway even before they got halfway through their set. Instead, people stard past, their eyes locked on objects draped with large white cloths. A drum kit. A couple of amps. And one elongated, rectangular item approximately the size of a grand piano.

You could at least try and tell me why Ground Components were average. Yes, everyone wants to see MUSE, but supports do win people over. So why did they fail? Was the singer shit? Not enough guitar lines? Average drum patterns? Tell me details, give me your analysis.

I don't like the use of samey. It's a cop-out. Choose something else.

Their alloted hour up, Ground Components ceded the stage to the roadies. Thirty minutes never felt like such an enternity even as the crowd cheered the relative novelty of Howards' transparent drum kit and Matt Bellamy's shining white electronic piano and vintage amplifier being unveiled in turn.

It's still awkward, but this is your essential point.

Okay, I've spent at least 20 minutes getting here, I haven't got time to pull apart the rest in detail and try to stick it back together.

But my main point is that below you don't deliver on what I considered to be your initial premise: you don't play the compare and contrast game at all. You tell me that it was:

an amazing set-list that even the Black Holes and Revelations haters would have loved!

but you really need to go and prove that. Tell (or show through description) me why. Now what I would possibly do here, is try to pick apart what was not liked about those songs, and illustrate how in a live environment the performance transcends studio renditions in a way that would win over anyone (in your considered opinion).

Instead you've given me a list of highlight tunes (fine, but I think you have too many highlights and there's no mention of why they were the peaks) and told me everyone sang along to KOC.

Don't use "breathtakingly": we've already established that adverbs are bad.

A review of a gig ought to give a sense of the ebb and flow of a gig. Put me there. Convince me through your prose that it was so amazing (don't just tell me it was amazing) that I should be chewing down barbituates for not being there. Or if it was crap, convince me that I dodged a bullet by not being there and ought to have a whisky to celebrate. This is what a review really needs to do.

This one doesn't hit that mark. Not to say you can't do that of course, but false praise won't improve your work.

Hope that helps some.

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 28th May, 2010

Ahahahaha. And that's saying something!

He's also reacting much like my sixteen-year-old self would.

Alexphotosite

Alexphotosite said on the 28th May, 2010

EDITED:

MUSE set their controls for the heart of the sun!
January 24, 2007
Hordern Pavilion, Sydney

When their fourth studio album dropped mid-way through 2006, created a supermassive response -- and an equally supermassive fan divide. Some held solely to earlier material: Absolution, Showbiz and Origin of Symmetry. Others embraced the new album's over-the-top glam. And there was a myriad of populist bandwagon-jumpers won over as Knights Of Cydonia, Invincible and Starlight all went high rotation on commercial radio.

^^^ Okay, this is what I would do. The bit about Bono and the Edge is a distraction, you don't need it.

In my (not-so) humble opinion, the heart of your review at this point is the new-versus-old divide and how this plays out among the fans, and as the construction and delivery of a live gig by the band.

This is okay. This is in fact, a resonable thing to do for a band with a back catalogue. We play comapre and contrast all the time.

At this point I'd pose a question, something like "but how would it play out live?" just short, to the point. It's a rhetorical device to transition to the action.

Then I'd drop those following two pragraphs because I don't think they add anything. You've already established MUSE's "bigness", once you've sold the point you move on. Once I've bought, there's no need to flog a dead horse.

You also need a transition to deal with the fact you have to talk about Ground Components first. Or, you could return to them at the very end and just go into MUSE. I've seen that done successfully, but not very often.

As if in possession of a Wonka golden ticket, hordes of cheery fans screamed with delight as they passed the security checks leading to the Hordern Pavilion’s glass doors.

I like this: it's good imagery. I killed "welcoming". For a long time, I has a bad habit of over-using adjectives till a editor friend pulled me up and said they were bogging down my prose. Cull as many as you can. Is your copy lean and mean? Long, run-on sentences are death for a writer.

So: keep it snappy. Let verbs do the talking for you where they can. And for fuck's sake, don't use adverbs.

Inside, [i know it's in the performance space you don't need to tell me. I don't need to know it's dark either, unless it's a murder mystery. In fact, this is probably all redundant detail here... so we'll go straight to:] tall, lanky fellows with beers in hand zealously guarded their spots at the barrier. Shorter punters opted for the stalls. All contributed to the din -- foot stomping and chants of "MUSE" were all that could be heard above the PA music. And support outfit Ground Components were yet to begin!

Lights dimmed [it can't be dark and you have the lights dimming, btw] at 7.30 and these scruffy figures lunged themselves into their respective positions. Lead singer [insert name here!] tried to get the audience onside by shouting "Hello Sydney!" but [adverb misuse] the band's samey grunge rock wore off halfway even before they got halfway through their set. Instead, people stard past, their eyes locked on objects draped with large white cloths. A drum kit. A couple of amps. And one elongated, rectangular item approximately the size of a grand piano.

You could at least try and tell me why Ground Components were average. Yes, everyone wants to see MUSE, but supports do win people over. So why did they fail? Was the singer shit? Not enough guitar lines? Average drum patterns? Tell me details, give me your analysis.

I don't like the use of samey. It's a cop-out. Choose something else.

Their alloted hour up, Ground Components ceded the stage to the roadies. Thirty minutes never felt like such an enternity even as the crowd cheered the relative novelty of Howards' transparent drum kit and Matt Bellamy's shining white electronic piano and vintage amplifier being unveiled in turn.

It's still awkward, but this is your essential point.

Okay, I've spent at least 20 minutes getting here, I haven't got time to pull apart the rest in detail and try to stick it back together.

But my main point is that below you don't deliver on what I considered to be your initial premise: you don't play the compare and contrast game at all. You tell me that it was:

an amazing set-list that even the Black Holes and Revelations haters would have loved!

but you really need to go and prove that. Tell (or show through description) me why. Now what I would possibly do here, is try to pick apart what was not liked about those songs, and illustrate how in a live environment the performance transcends studio renditions in a way that would win over anyone (in your considered opinion).

Instead you've given me a list of highlight tunes (fine, but I think you have too many highlights and there's no mention of why they were the peaks) and told me everyone sang along to KOC.

Don't use "breathtakingly": we've already established that adverbs are bad.

A review of a gig ought to give a sense of the ebb and flow of a gig. Put me there. Convince me through your prose that it was so amazing (don't just tell me it was amazing) that I should be chewing down barbituates for not being there. Or if it was crap, convince me that I dodged a bullet by not being there and ought to have a whisky to celebrate. This is what a review really needs to do.

This one doesn't hit that mark. Not to say you can't do that of course, but false praise won't improve your work.

Hope that helps some.

LOL adverbs = bad.

Thanks heaps, much better informed, if only Braves had done this.

Cheers Demo!

Much appreciated.

This is constructive criticism whereas Braves was nitpicking, I don't mean to offend Braves but something more like this is what I needed.

Demosthenes

Demosthenes said on the 28th May, 2010

I'll put myself on the chopping block in return: one of the first music reviews I ever wrote complete with Gumbuoy's too much "I" and insufficient analysis of the support act. Intro is probably too long as well.

Muse - The Riverstage, Brisbane
Sunday September 12, 2004

When people tell you that the band you're going to see slew the audience at Glastonbury, you tend to go in with high expectations.

The problem with high expectations though, is that more often than not, they go unfulfilled. The bass player has a dog of a night; the sound is all muddy and wrong for some reason; or the atmosphere simply sucks and you can't but help feel like you got jilted at the altar.

Muse, I can happily report, was nothing like that.

Originally, this gig was scheduled to go ahead at the Arena - a small, intimate Brisbane venue - over two nights. But after both gigs sold out, the promoters switched it to the Riverstage - a larger, outdoor bowl-like venue that can accommodate 10,000 people or more.

I had reservations that the open-air of the Riverstage would dissipate the sound. In the end I can only say that I was totally stunned - Muse were outstanding, the sound was fantastic right down at the front, and it truly was a night to remember.

Warm-up band Neon have the toughest task of any band playing in Brisbane tonight. I'd like to say they were up to it, but their four-piece straight-laced guitar rock seems strangely out of place for a gig like this.

Halfway through their set, I move down to the pit in front of the stage. The crowd is no more appreciative, but the sound is much more solid. As are Neon: a solid band, but not outstanding - nothing in their set reaches out, grabs me by the throat and says 'you must listen to me right now'.

After Neon finish and take their bows, a sense of restlessness pervades the crowd. Several times drunks strike up a 'We want Muse' chant. More people pack into the moshpit as expectation builds. Back throughout the amphitheatre I can barely see grass for all the people standing around waiting.

A chopper flies low overhead.

Are they descending from the heavens?

Maybe, because only a few minutes later the thunderous drums of Dominic Howard begin a throbbing, repetitive beat.

The crowd screams as one and begins clapping and stamping feet in time. The screams reach a crescendo as Matthew Bellamy and Chris Wolstenholme suddenly appear on raised platforms and kick in the opening strains of Apocalypse Please. A wall of glorious sound envelopes us all.

Is it space rock? Rock opera? Whatever classification, it's an unstoppable juggernaut of heavy drums and bass, exquisitely counterpointed by Bellamy's frenzied guitar, unique throaty falsetto and truly gorgeous piano.

The crowd laps it up.

The band drive through Apocalypse Please, Hysteria and New Born; the crowd is in complete ecstasy. The transition from each song to the next is flawless; the execution perfect.

Bellamy's falsetto soars through Sing for Absolution and it seems as though the entire crowd is joining in - we're all falling from grace together.

Part way through, I note Wolstenholme's lower arm and part of his hand is still encased in a purple cast - the recent legacy of a broken wrist that that forced him to concede the bass spot to The Streets' Morgan Nicholls for several US gigs.

It's no impairment to his bass playing. Just as well, because the pace is truly relentless. Muscle Museum, Citizen Erased, and Sunburn whip the crowd into a frenzy. In the moshpit, it's hot, sweaty and fierce.

Howard's wrists and arms are like rubber as he contorts his body around his drum kit, while Bellamy seems to be having his own personal orgasm on keyboards and guitar. His cascading piano solo during Butterflies and Hurricanes - projected onto the backdrop behind the band for all to see close-up - brings everyone to a standstill.

Similarly, relentless ranks of marching jackbooted soldiers are the highlight of the chorus of The Small Print.

Blackout and Ruled by Secrecy provide slower moments, and when confetti showers everyone as Muse close out the night with an awesome rendition Stockholm Syndrome, it's impossible to say this hasn't been one of the gigs of the year.

Yet, these rock gods seem loathe to share more than their music with the enthusiastic audience. Audience interaction that's limited to a few 'hellos' inserts a discordant note into an otherwise flawless night.

However, I doubt the thousands worshipping at the altar minded in the slightest.

Braveheart81

Braveheart81 said on the 28th May, 2010

I loved Demosthenes review of Alex's review.

Demosthenes

Demosthenes said on the 28th May, 2010

Good editing is fucking hard work and takes time. I don't blame BH, because that took me a solid 40 minutes to go through and make all those comments. I can empathise with BH: he's probably trying to give what he can in a post written in a couple of minutes at work. It's impossible.

Braveheart81

Braveheart81 said on the 28th May, 2010

This is constructive criticism whereas Braves was nitpicking, I don't mean to offend Braves but something more like this is what I needed.

Dude... I picked up on several of the same things that Demosthenes did. I just didn't so obviously spell out what you should have done instead. What is not constructive about..

Demosthenes

Demosthenes said on the 28th May, 2010

I have a fucking headache now, too.

lukey26

lukey26 said on the 28th May, 2010

"I enjoy understanding things."

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 28th May, 2010

Alexphotosite

Alexphotosite said on the 28th May, 2010

Ok, Demo, I followed your tips loosely and came up with this, Edit 2.

I hope this is a better one and yes, thanks guys I understand why you were critiquing my last edit. Thanks for your replies.

MUSE set their controls for the heart of the sun!
January 24, 2007
Hordern Pavilion, Sydney

When their fourth studio album dropped mid-way through 2006, with the single “Supermassive Black Hole”, MUSE had really arrived, delivering a bombastic record of epic proportions, not only this but the album; Black Holes and Revelations, created an epic divide between older Musers that were loyal to their previous albums; Absolution, Showbiz and Origin of Symmetry and old fans who loved the old albums and were ready for this newbie to sink in. Others jumped on the bandwagon and lapped-up the singles; “Knights of Cydonia”, “Invincible” and “Starlight” from high commercial radio rotation.

As if in possession of a Wonka golden ticket, the hordes of cheery fans screamed with delight as they passed through the security checks of the gates leading them down the path to the Hordern Pavilion’s glass doors. Inside the crowd noises grew, died and then grew again in cycles as roadies did their best to keep their time constraints to set-up the gear and stage for the support band of the night; Ground Components. Tall, lanky fellows, with beers in hand, lined the barrier as if they were guarding a palace door and nobody was going to get in without a fight. The shorter audience members opted for a seat in the stalls surrounding the standing space in front of the stage, they may have been short but they weren’t incapable of making anticipatory noises; foot stomping and band name chanting were all that could be heard above the PA.

The lights dimmed at 7.30 and these scruffy figures lunged themselves into their respective positions. The lead singer/guitarist tried to get the audience onside by shouting "Hello Sydney!" but unfortunately this novelty wore-off as soon as they were halfway through their set and no-one was really paying much attention to their grunge rock, rather they were staring on past the band and had their eyes locked on the objects with large white cloths draped over them. One could make out a drum kit, a couple of amps and an elongated, rectangular instrument, possibly a piano of some sort.
Ground Components were a hard band to watch, as much as you wanted them to sound amazing, because they were supporting MUSE, you also wanted them to fail, which they did, as the lead singer’s pretentious voice, actions and lyrics were enough to make you want to revoke your Australian Citizenship! Alongside the lead singer were three other blokes, who strummed power-chords, played rhythm following bass lines and standard, simple drum beats. Unfortunately they really didn’t fit the bill and as such did not draw a huge crowd, the only ones who actually did stay to see them were camping out to see MUSE in an hour and a half’s time.

Their hour was up, relief and excitement hit the audience all at once; relief that Ground Components had left and excitement that MUSE were up next, although it would not happen so quickly as it was time to wait the dreaded 30 minutes before Muse would appear onstage. In between times a sheet covering Dominic Howards' pristine transparent drum kit and Matt Bellamy's shining white electronic piano with vintage white amplifier in tail, were raised and promptly taken away which made the awaiting crowd even more anxious with loud applauses and cheers.
One question was prevalent all night, many fans had been thinking it and some even asked; “Do you think that the new songs will sound good live?” Missing-out on the 2004 Absolution tour might have been one of many bad mistakes made, yet that mistake would be erased from thought as the answer to this ringing question would become very clear, very soon.

The sound check guys and roadies did take what felt like an eternity to finish their job for the night, but it was all worth the wait as Matt Bellamy, Chris Wolstenholme and Dominic Howard or collectively; MUSE, strolled across the vast Hordern stage, took their places and without a second to lose, launched into an amazing set of interstellar rock madness! MUSE had arrived and it was time to experience some of the most talented artists in the business doing what they love to do best; play insane rock and roll, which could have fallen off the pages of an immense sci-fi, western, and romance novel, while smiling and lapping up every complement the audience could throw their way!

The trio began with introductory track from "Black Holes and Revelations", "Take a Bow" which had everyone jumping and screaming with smiles from ear-to-ear as the addictive lyrics and guitar riffs pounded out of the towering speaker stacks! Pyrotechnics exploded from all angles, screens displayed crazy visuals of anything from robots marching to “Supermassive Black Hole” or simply flashing emergency messages in the falling intro of their old favourite “Bliss”. Since entering the Hordern the audience knew they were in for a treat but this was something so much more spectacular and phenomenal than anyone would have expected.

Highlights of the show were; "Starlight", "Supermassive Black Hole", "Hysteria", "New Born", "Plug-In Baby", "Time is Running Out", "Bliss", "Muscle Museum", "Invincible" and of course the finale of the second encore "Knights of Cydonia", which had the whole crowd singing along karaoke style to the words of the chorus as they all flashed-up onscreen in correspondence to Matt's absolutely amazing falsetto voice which soared above the rafters and out into the atmosphere as the final words were screamed by the adoring audience. Unfortunately all things must end and this was the most fitting way to end the show, the final smoke balls blasted out of their pressured canisters in front to the stage to hide the band and then, as if by magic, they were gone.
This set left the crowd speechless as they had played an amazing set-list that even the Black Holes and Revelations haters would have loved as MUSE played their older hits as well as the more widely recognisable singles from the new album. Songs such as New Born, Plug-In Baby and Bliss all of which appear on the first two albums were brought solidly out in force to a blazing reception of cheers, tears and screams.
Sydney MUSE fans had just experienced an unbelievably exhilarating performance with and audio-visual system made this night more of a theatrical experience rather than a mere concert or gig and they certainly would not go home disappointed! Audience members were sucked-into the songs as images and videos relating to the plot of various songs were projected onto the massive transparent screens! "Invincible" had video of poverty, famine and natural disaster stricken areas of the world.
Did the new songs translate from the album? Did they sound as good as they did recorded in a studio? To answer both questions with a billowing “YES!” would not have been a good enough response for anyone who saw MUSE tonight. The fact that they can replicate their recorded tracks and make them even better in a live environment just goes to show how far their showmanship has come and how far it will continue in the future!
MUSE are here to stay, you may only have just noticed them but don’t fret, they will be rocking stadiums for many moons to come.

ashryn

ashryn said on the 28th May, 2010

you did a good job though, Demosthenes.

sorry Alex, your review is too dense with words for me to read at work. Also i am bored of Muse right now.

icutmyownhair

icutmyownhair said on the 28th May, 2010

Oh Lordy. What to say? I like your use of the word 'the'.

Braveheart81

Braveheart81 said on the 28th May, 2010

Your first sentence contains 6 commas and 2 semi colons and two ands (excluding the and which was part of a list and the and in Black Holes and Revelations). It is pretty unweildy and would probably be better off being broken up into several sentences.

I don't like this sentence. You change the subject of the sentence from the lead singer to the audience halfway through and it makes it confusing. Again, break it into separate sentences.

Again, there are six commas in this sentence and it is pretty unwieldy. I would also cut down on the hyperbole.

Most of the same mistakes are repeated in the remaining paragraphs. Multiple ideas in a single sentence stringed along with commas and semi colons, random use of dashes between words that don't need them.

It's definitely improving though.

icutmyownhair

icutmyownhair said on the 28th May, 2010

I don't think you should be calling someone's voice pretentious. It's sloppy writing. And if you do at least say what makes it so.

Alexphotosite

Alexphotosite said on the 28th May, 2010

I meant the way in which he spoke

Alexphotosite

Alexphotosite said on the 28th May, 2010

I feel like I'm doing a bloody uni assignment. Good thing I'm majoring in Music Journalism!

Don't worry, I'm only at first year! Ha!

ashryn

ashryn said on the 28th May, 2010

I feel like I'm doing a bloody uni assignment. Good thing I'm majoring in Music Journalism!

Don't worry, I'm only at first year! Ha!

when the review is perfect submit it with drafts for assessment and see what the lecturer says about it..

icutmyownhair

icutmyownhair said on the 28th May, 2010

I feel like I'm doing a bloody uni assignment. Good thing I'm majoring in Music Journalism!

Don't worry, I'm only at first year! Ha!
Oh lord. You do realise that they don't actually teach you how to write? It's innate.

Demosthenes

Demosthenes said on the 28th May, 2010

I agree with BH. A good rule of thumb is only one thought or idea per sentence.

And if you want to push it further, as per journalism, you make it one sentence per paragraph as well.

If this seems unclear, read half a dozen newspaper articles in the SMH, The Age or the Oz. Not for the news, but to analyse how the sentences are put together. You'll note that even these sentences are quite short so as to enhance clarity.

Oh, and "bellowing yes" not "billowing yes".

Braveheart81

Braveheart81 said on the 28th May, 2010

I'd say the phrase is normally a resounding yes.

Demosthenes

Demosthenes said on the 28th May, 2010

Nah, Cuts. I was a terrible writer as a 17yo. Completely shithouse. I really think anyone can learn if they're disciplined about it, and willing to be utterly ruthless on themselves.

Demosthenes

Demosthenes said on the 28th May, 2010

I'll give you that. :)

Alexphotosite

Alexphotosite said on the 28th May, 2010

Cheers guys, really appreciating the feedback, had mindblank on bellowing. I know a person isn't a chimney, hahah - "Billowing smoke..."

icutmyownhair

icutmyownhair said on the 28th May, 2010

And you still are!

I don't doubt you can learn but not from a journalism or communications course.

Alex seek out a double major in communcations and creative writing.

icutmyownhair

icutmyownhair said on the 28th May, 2010

And you still are!

I

Ok, that was a joke. Don't hit me.

Alexphotosite

Alexphotosite said on the 28th May, 2010

No they don't teach you. You can be given ideas which will form into more and they you can be given nudges in the right direction, but that's not the same.

I believe that willingness, like demos said, has a lot more to do with the lessons that are being taught. If someone gives you an idea and you are interested in the subject then that certain idea will spark a thinking process and in turn you will learn from it, form your own ideas and go on to be more knowledgeable about the topic/subject and may even go on to give others the same original idea.

On the other hand someone can't just jam something down your throat and expect you to take it in if you aren't interested in it...

^^Please Naps and Foolio, do your worst here, the floor is open for your comedic, quote changing antics.

Alexphotosite

Alexphotosite said on the 28th May, 2010

And you still are!

I don't doubt you can learn but not from a journalism or communications course.

Alex seek out a double major in communcations and creative writing.

Creative Writing is a part of my degree, Music Journalism is my major in Media, if I wish to pursue it.

And trust me, I write a mad story, even better than this one and that's saying something! Hahaha!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBOl1Lt-jng

Alexphotosite

Alexphotosite said on the 28th May, 2010

*TURKEY SLAP* Please don't have your scissors out, I'm NOT Jewish!

Braveheart81

Braveheart81 said on the 28th May, 2010

Creative Writing is a part of my degree, Music Journalism is my major in Media, if I wish to pursue it.

And trust me, I write a mad story, even better than this one and that's saying something! Hahaha!

If you want to make a career out of journalism I suggest you practice your writing as much as possible. It is a tough career to break into. I would also suggest not limiting yourself to music journalism. That is a pretty niche area to try and break into and it is full of people doing it for free so to get paid as a music journalist you need to be very good.

Demosthenes

Demosthenes said on the 28th May, 2010

I've taken BH picking on this paragraph a step further.

Ground Components proved a hard band to watch.

As much as you wanted them to sound amazing, because they were supporting MUSE, you also wanted them to fail.

This is interesting. Definitely arguable. Possibly false -- I don't know -- but certainly interesting. My problem is that you've left the why implicit.

Now, I am guessing that it's because you (secretly) don't want them to outshine MUSE.

So, what about this (or similar)?

As much as you wanted them to sound amazing, as a MUSE fan you prayed for them to falter. What would be the joy of a MUSE gig where the support outshone the headliner?

You're really nailing your colours to the wall here, by the way. That's not something I have a problem with, as long as you're even-handed (note that I didn't say objective) in your judgements.

And falter they did...

Okay, first, go to their myspace and find out his fucking name. Research, baby. Research.

Second, Cuts is right: what was it about the singer's voice and actions and lyrics that was completely off-putting. What was it about the voice? Grating? Harsh? Atonal? Soemthing else?

Same with the lyrics. Too banal?

Action? Do you mean on-stage persona? Stage charisma? Was he -- and consequently the band -- unable command such a large stage?

Third, the revoking citizenship thing comes across as overkill. Very few professional bands are truly awful. Make sure you're saving that sort of thing for that one band every five years that /really/ does suck. Like Tim Rogers being falling down drunk on stage.

icutmyownhair

icutmyownhair said on the 28th May, 2010

Creative Writing is a part of my degree, Music Journalism is my major in Media, if I wish to pursue it.

I got more out of Creative Writing than anything else. Except Sociology, maybe. That made me want to wear a beret.

Demosthenes

Demosthenes said on the 28th May, 2010

Once a fucking hack, always one!

I don't doubt you can learn but not from a journalism or communications course.

Alex seek out a double major in communcations and creative writing.

I did journalism at University as part of a BA and Economics degree. UQ had a very, very good journalism department at that point and I learnt a lot about putting stories together.

I've never done a creative writing course in my life.

And I'm not the most creative person but I've always focused on writing like some people focus on learning guitar.

There's a poetic elegance to beautiful writing that exceeds the mere information that it conveys, and that's what I really love about it and what keeps me coming back to it even when the writing process is driving me up the wall.

Failed senior English and I'm somehow scratching a living out of this caper. If I can do it, anyone can.

Demosthenes

Demosthenes said on the 28th May, 2010

Suggest renaming this: "The Alexphotosite review feedback and improvement thread".

Alexphotosite

Alexphotosite said on the 28th May, 2010

with a bit of Muse on the side!

So do I get the gig?! Do I?! Do I?!

Jokes guys, I know I'm a fair way off yet.

My girl is taking me to see her friend in Chaingang tomorrow night as the SFX thing at Space, anyone know if that's any good? I will take notes and review that for starters, take all of your points on board and fucking nail my head to the keyboard and get it 100% perfecto unless I have doubts, by this stage I will submit here and see you for swift evaluations.

Alexphotosite

Alexphotosite said on the 28th May, 2010

We have hijacked the tread, sooooooooo...

Step right up! Step right up! This is a one time only offer! Ladies and genital men!

Hello sir! You got some downright shoddy work need a good lookin' over?!

Step into my thread of wonders and for a small administrative bunch of blows and criticisms, that you will later learn to love, I will iron out your shitty review!

Oh! Here come me friends now! Demo! Braves and Snips! We need all the help we can get!
I was once a shitty writer, thought the world of meself until I had a right proper head checkin' by those lot! Come in, I'll make you a cup of "Shut the fuck up and listen you fool!"

Copernicus

Copernicus said on the 28th May, 2010

Just something to add:

You're reviewing a performance of the band, you're not writing an essay about the band. Your writing at the moment is still too dense to fit the 'review criterion.' What could be explained in a brief sentence, you explain in a whole paragraph. Avoid long sentences unless necessary, and keep your tone in check. That is don't be too bias, or critical and IF there is good reason for being critical then EXPLAIN why this is so.

Another thing: avoid excessive hyperbole, starting off with figurative language/descriptors/imagery is great as a starting point but don't go overboard with it.

Questions are good as lead on points but use them sparingly, same point with the verbs/adverbs, you're using far too many. a lot of them are quite repetitive as well. For instance if you said something was 'epic' then you don't need to say it again.

Hope this helps.

gumbuoy

gumbuoy said on the 28th May, 2010

In the spirit of the thread, I'm going to say the same things I've been saying all afternoon, but with a smile on my face. This is with my subby hat on.

You're punctuation-happy. Not a single one of those exclamation marks was required. You should be indicating how exciting and superb the gig was with your words.

These are the words you've incorrectly hyphenated:

lapped-up
set-up
wore-off
Missing-out
flashed-up
set-list
Plug-In

Don't capitalise the band's name all the time. Their name is Muse, even if the way it appears on the logo is MUSE. And you overuse the band's name. We know who you're talking about, it doesn't need to repeated ad nauseum.

This sentence still makes no sense:
created an epic divide between older Musers that were loyal to their previous albums; Absolution, Showbiz and Origin of Symmetry and old fans who loved the old albums and were ready for this newbie to sink in.

the "highlights" list - don't mention any song you've already described, and dont mention any song as a highlight without saying why. In fact, for the main band, you should generally avoid using the, "highlights include ..." - thats mostly for support bands who you dont have room to go into fully. any highlights from the main band people will know are highlights because you'll talk about them.

Finally, if you're looking to do a roughly chronological review, which most reviews are, you shouldnt mention the big kickass, second encore, grand finale, talk about how it was a perfect ending, and then go back and talk about other stuff, including songs, which happened earlier. Finish with a sentence/para on the final song, and then a brief, powerful summary, preferably one sentence.

dont forget to use active voice, short sharp sentences, and (and this last one is just a personal preference) present tense. You've got to BE in the MOMENT, MAN!

Like I said, all criticism delivered goodnaturedly, and hopefully received that way - you're definitely improving draft-to-draft.

Demosthenes

Demosthenes said on the 28th May, 2010

My opinion is that present tense is by far the easiest technique you can use to liven up your reviews and put people right in the action as if they were there looking through your eyes and hearing through your ears.

That being said, past tense can work in skilled hands, too.

Sunnyboyz

Sunnyboyz said on the 28th May, 2010

i started reading alex's review, then i decided my time would be better spent looking at these...

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l340g4bGCB1qz6l95o1_500.jpg

Alexphotosite

Alexphotosite said on the 28th May, 2010

That's not cool, yeah her Twitter got hacked by some supernerd who most likely has no life, lives with his mum and hasn't left the his bedroom since he last went to get himself a bucket and family meal from KFC down the road.

I've had one of my accounts hacked an I know it's not a funny experience. It makes you paranoid and you start to question your own security. Even once I had set the security measures back in place, the fucker(s) who was trying to get my info kept trying again as password update requests kept being sent to my alternate email address.

The same thing happened to my girlfriend, we now had quite cryptic passwords but now they are harder to decipher than the Da Vinci Code!

I really do feel sorry for Ms. Williams and think that hackers need to get a life if they think they are going to get any kind of real world kudos for performing such fucking devious acts! In the real world if a hacker told someone "Oh hey! You'll never guess but I hacked into the singer from Paramore's Twitter! Then that lead me to her email address and I found a topless picture of her and am now wanking over it with my twig of a dick... It's better than wanking off over my mum I guess..." the response would go down like this "What the?! That's not funny you fucktard! *PUNCH*", hacker being K.O.ed. Now that's funny shit!

oldgregg

oldgregg said on the 28th May, 2010

Just enjoy the tits Alex for the love of god.

Copernicus

Copernicus said on the 28th May, 2010

dude she wasn't hacked, idiot uploaded the wrong photo onto twitter, realised, panicked and declared she was hacked 5 minutes later to cover it up.

Alexphotosite

Alexphotosite said on the 28th May, 2010

It's not cool dude. She's looking into the camera with that look of trust and longing as if to say "I know you, I love you and I trust you with this photo..." and yeah, it wasn't leaked by whoever it was for because it's PRIVATE! Until some hay dick of a (probably) fat arsed ubern00b went along used some fucked-up software from Russia in order to get to the stage where they could see her nips! Poor Hayley!

How would you feel if your Mangina and bad watercolours were exposed on the interwebs without your prior consent or in agreement with your husband, Howard Moon?!

Alexphotosite

Alexphotosite said on the 28th May, 2010

Shiiiit! Shows what I know, still hacking is fucked so my rant stands, just without reference to Hayley.

Copernicus

Copernicus said on the 28th May, 2010

I agree with the hacking point, man and how it's fucked up as well.

oldgregg

oldgregg said on the 29th May, 2010

Lol Alex I'm sure there are photos of my mangina floating about somewhere on this vast galaxy that is the Internet. Probably shouldn't taken the photos in the first place, especially if you're in the public eye. Hayley Williams just got a life lesson, shit happens, could be worse, she could of had ugly tits, and we'd all be laughing, instead of jacking it, which I expect is where half the forum is tonight as it is terribly quiet. But yeah point being, end of the day a minge shot would of been better as I wonder if the carpet matches her pubes.

dkos

dkos said on the 29th May, 2010

Almost certain that this photo is self-taken...

Sunnyboyz

Sunnyboyz said on the 29th May, 2010

i started reading alex's whinge about hackers, then i decided my time would be better spent looking at these...

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l340g4bGCB1qz6l95o1_500.jpg

good point.

lukey26

lukey26 said on the 29th May, 2010

Alex you moron, her Twitter didn't get hacked. You can't hack her twitter, and suddenly have access to her phone's pictures. She said on Twitter she recently got a new phone. She clearly got horny, took a pic for somebody/herself to test the camera, and accidently uploaded it. THEN, freaking out, said that she got hacked just so it look's like she didn't do it herself. Picture is clearly self taken, and she clearly made a mistake... that everybody can't stop looking at.

Braveheart81

Braveheart81 said on the 29th May, 2010

The same thing happened to my girlfriend, we now had quite cryptic passwords but now they are harder to decipher than the Da Vinci Code!

Will be on the lookout for naked photos of your girlfriend on the internet.

Stefan Beck

Stefan Beck said on the 29th May, 2010

Note the angle of the left arm.

dkos

dkos said on the 29th May, 2010

The trajectory of the left breast is a definite giveaway.

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 29th May, 2010

Further proof Alex is a complete deadshit.

Sunnyboyz

Sunnyboyz said on the 30th May, 2010

Coincidentally, i decided to use my left hand to jack it this time as opposed to my right.

interesting...

arfy

arfy said on the 1st Jun, 2010

if i was one of those people who use forum quotes as sigs, this would be it :p

brownie-ll

brownie-ll said on the 2nd Jun, 2010

That's not cool, yeah her Twitter got hacked by some supernerd who most likely has no life, lives with his mum and hasn't left the his bedroom since he last went to get himself a bucket and family meal from KFC down the road.

I've had one of my accounts hacked an I know it's not a funny experience. It makes you paranoid and you start to question your own security. Even once I had set the security measures back in place, the fucker(s) who was trying to get my info kept trying again as password update requests kept being sent to my alternate email address.

The same thing happened to my girlfriend, we now had quite cryptic passwords but now they are harder to decipher than the Da Vinci Code!

I really do feel sorry for Ms. Williams and think that hackers need to get a life if they think they are going to get any kind of real world kudos for performing such fucking devious acts! In the real world if a hacker told someone "Oh hey! You'll never guess but I hacked into the singer from Paramore's Twitter! Then that lead me to her email address and I found a topless picture of her and am now wanking over it with my twig of a dick... It's better than wanking off over my mum I guess..." the response would go down like this "What the?! That's not funny you fucktard! *PUNCH*", hacker being K.O.ed. Now that's funny shit!

Ugh. Even your replies are too long. Edit!!!

ashryn

ashryn said on the 2nd Jun, 2010

I like 'bellowing yes' it makes me imagine someone doing it.. and I hate hackneyed phrases.

rodismdotcom

rodismdotcom said on the 3rd Jun, 2010

Once a fucking hack, always one!

I did journalism at University as part of a BA and Economics degree. UQ had a very, very good journalism department at that point and I learnt a lot about putting stories together.

I've never done a creative writing course in my life.

And I'm not the most creative person but I've always focused on writing like some people focus on learning guitar.

There's a poetic elegance to beautiful writing that exceeds the mere information that it conveys, and that's what I really love about it and what keeps me coming back to it even when the writing process is driving me up the wall.

Failed senior English and I'm somehow scratching a living out of this caper. If I can do it, anyone can.

The best journos often don't have a journalism degree...

rodismdotcom

rodismdotcom said on the 3rd Jun, 2010

i started reading alex's review, then i decided my time would be better spent looking at these...

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l340g4bGCB1qz6l95o1_500.jpg

Needs more Veronica's...

Demosthenes

Demosthenes said on the 3rd Jun, 2010

So have you come to praise me or bury me? I can't work it out.

rodismdotcom

rodismdotcom said on the 3rd Jun, 2010

I will sit on the fence for a bit.

disco

disco said on the 4th Jun, 2010

fuckers charge an extra 10 clams to get them pre-sale- cheeky.
got my standing for bris anyway.

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 4th Jun, 2010

A man dies and goes to Heaven's pearly gates. He sees a guy playing ridiculous guitar solos and singing vague political lyrics. "Who's that?" he asks St. Peter. "Oh, that's just God," says Peter. "Thinks he's Matt Bellamy."

FeedbackPhoto

FeedbackPhoto said on the 4th Jun, 2010

don't forget gasps for air like an asthmatic in a smokers convention between EVERY. SINGLE. FUCKING. LINE.

i've exposed your lieeeeeeeeeeeeees
*GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASP FOR AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIR*
baaaaaaaaaaaaaabeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee the underneeeeath is no big surprise
*HUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I NEEED MORE OXYGENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN*
now it's tiiiiiime
*IM GOING TO FUCKING SUFFOCATE IF I DONT GET ME SOME O2*
for chaaaaaaanginnnnnnnnnnnng
*HOLY FUCK I CANT BREATHE QUIETLY LIKE EVERYONE ELSE ON THE PLANET IM MATT BELLAMY THE MIDGET SINGER WHO HAS LUNGS THAT EMPTY THEMSELVES QUICKER THAN A PREMATURE EJACULATOR WHO SCORES A NIGHT WITH A PORN STAR AND OR A REALLY LONG WINDED ANALOGY*

Stefan Beck

Stefan Beck said on the 4th Jun, 2010

I heard a Muse song in JB the other day and since it featured the word 'resistance' I'm going to assume it was from the new album.
I didn't hate it :o

oldgregg

oldgregg said on the 4th Jun, 2010

any thoughts on the support act?

disco

disco said on the 4th Jun, 2010

I heard a Muse song in JB the other day and since it featured the word 'resistance' I'm going to assume it was from the new album.
I didn't hate it :o

that would be the cleverly titled 'resistance' from the new album.
a bit naff and very poppy, but i like it.
cant say the same for most of the other tracks on the album though.

disco

disco said on the 4th Jun, 2010

no idea gregg, hopefully they will bring someone from over there.
i see the editors are supporting them for one of the legs of their tour, but its probably hoping for too much to see them here.

oldgregg

oldgregg said on the 4th Jun, 2010

silversun pickups supported them in america i think.

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 4th Jun, 2010

You could be wrong could be wrong

MilkySheep

MilkySheep said on the 4th Jun, 2010

I reckon Temper Trap will support them. The US had SSPU, the UK

grattan

grattan said on the 4th Jun, 2010

UK supports:
4 September – Manchester Lancashire County Cricket Ground
Editors
The Temper Trap
Pulled Apart by Horses

10 September – London Wembley Stadium
Lily Allen
The Big Pink
White Rabbits

11 September - London Wembley Stadium
Biffy Clyro
White Lies
I Am Arrows

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 4th Jun, 2010

Those are some fucking awesome supports, not gonna lie.

disco

disco said on the 4th Jun, 2010

bring the big pink dammit!!!!

Tybekofu

Tybekofu said on the 4th Jun, 2010

:d
hey guys............

i've gotta brag; i have tickets to muse in melbourne, (december 14th, 2010).

so freaking excited!!!!!

who else is going?????

tyvbekofu :p

thomok said on the 5th Jun, 2010

:d
hey guys............

i've gotta brag; i have tickets to muse in melbourne, (december 14th, 2010).

so freaking excited!!!!!

who else is going?????

tyvbekofu :p

me :D couldn't get floor tickets despite buying tix at 9.01 and ticketek saying they were available. Ticketek has been a bit dodgy lately for ticket availability info..

Tybekofu

Tybekofu said on the 5th Jun, 2010

i've got to wonder what is ticketek doing???

every time i try to buy tickets to major gigs, my session times runs out, or the ga area is sold out, even though ticketek states tickets are available.....

this is causing me major stress!!!!! i always buy at the earliest time available, (pre-sale), and battle ticketek's website for the next 30 minutes...... stressing right out........ grabbing the first available tickets i can get, for fear of missing out completely!!

metalica for instance, my session time quit on me when ordering front row seats!!!! uncool!!

thinking of sueing ticketek for stress related injuries :mad:

Alexphotosite

Alexphotosite said on the 5th Jun, 2010

:d
hey guys............

i've gotta brag; i have tickets to muse in melbourne, (december 14th, 2010).

so freaking excited!!!!!

who else is going?????

tyvbekofu :p

BUT HOW?!

I'm a member of Muse.mu and I got no email and am on their website in the members section and all it says is that there will be more info on presales soon! Presales started yesterday! Fucken!

rodismdotcom

rodismdotcom said on the 5th Jun, 2010

Ticketmaster is even worse,,,

Copernicus

Copernicus said on the 5th Jun, 2010

BUT HOW?!

I'm a member of Muse.mu and I got no email and am on their website in the members section and all it says is that there will be more info on presales soon! Presales started yesterday! Fucken!

there was no email, they just announced it on their website (for everyone to fucking see, so much for a fan presale)

missed out on ga, will try again on mon.

Braveheart81

Braveheart81 said on the 6th Jun, 2010

i've got to wonder what is ticketek doing???

every time i try to buy tickets to major gigs, my session times runs out, or the ga area is sold out, even though ticketek states tickets are available.....

this is causing me major stress!!!!! i always buy at the earliest time available, (pre-sale), and battle ticketek's website for the next 30 minutes...... stressing right out........ grabbing the first available tickets i can get, for fear of missing out completely!!

metalica for instance, my session time quit on me when ordering front row seats!!!! uncool!!

thinking of sueing ticketek for stress related injuries :mad:

I think it's more likely that the problem is from your end. I never have any problems with Ticketek. It works better than just about every other ticketing website for major events.

oldgregg

oldgregg said on the 6th Jun, 2010

yeah i had no problems, i got standing tickets and then went back and got seated ones as well and my only issue was it signed me out.

beached_whale said on the 6th Jun, 2010

second that. i had the most stress free experience ever buying tickets from ticketek last friday. was quite refreshing for a change after several disappointments dealing with ticketmaster.

thomok said on the 7th Jun, 2010

ok so what problems could it be from our end? I'd love to know so I can fix it! Has only happened the last month or so

Braveheart81

Braveheart81 said on the 7th Jun, 2010

I'm not really sure. If your problem is just being unable to get onto the site in the first place when there is a major onsale like this it is probably just due to the demand. If it is part way through the ticketing process then it could be a different issue.

Sites like Ticketek are pretty robust and if you get into the site and are able to choose tickets they should work well enough to complete the purchasing process and secure your tickets.

Potential problems could be to do with cookies or something saved in your cache that shouldn't be. Otherwise there could be an issue with your connection.

grattan

grattan said on the 7th Jun, 2010

I wonder if they're bringing the massive UFO they had at Rock AM Ring in Germany. the stupid thing was so bloated and ridiculous that it knocked out MTV Europe's live broadcast of the festival.

Alexphotosite

Alexphotosite said on the 7th Jun, 2010

^ Ha! Fancy that! MTV actually broadcasting music?! Well I never!

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