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Flowers calls out no-funCobain

Wed 8th Apr, 2009 in International News

This week marks the 15th anniversary of Kurt Cobain’s death, but not everyone is eager to praise his legacy. The Killers frontman Brandon Flowers did himself no favours yesterday when he mused to UK tabloid The Daily Star that grunge took the fun out of rock – œn roll.

Having just swung through Australia with V Festival, Flowers was talking to the paper about why America hasn’t taken to new album Day & Age after embracing the Springsteen swagger of Sam’s Town.

“Kings Of Leon filled that guitar spot nicely in America but they don’t have a song like Human,” Flowers espoused. “I don’t mean it in a bad way, but I think Kurt Cobain and grunge took the fun out of rock – œn roll. Everything’s changing, though, and it’s starting to become a lot more playful and brighter.”

While The Killers’ PR department is busy slapping its forehead, the band is on its way to headlining Coachella next weekend.

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sarahanne

sarahanne said on the 8th Apr, 2009

And Brandon you took talent out of EVERYTHING

dogmongler said on the 8th Apr, 2009

i'd actually argue that he has a point

but it's not like music needs to be fun to be enjoyable

Ronny

Ronny said on the 8th Apr, 2009

Took the Talent out of Facial Hair

mooney88

mooney88 said on the 8th Apr, 2009

lets all listen to the mormon

Fonzie said on the 8th Apr, 2009

Likewise he does have a point, he can have an opinion. He is not bagging the talents of Cobain.

dream_brother

dream_brother said on the 8th Apr, 2009

WHY THE FUCK IS THIS NEWS

fuck this place gets duller by the day

craig123

craig123 said on the 8th Apr, 2009

riding on coattails maybe ?

JackT

JackT said on the 8th Apr, 2009

WHY THE FUCK IS THIS NEWS

fuck this place gets duller by the day

My day is not complete without a "WHY IS THIS NEWS"

dkos

dkos said on the 8th Apr, 2009

FL definitely needs a better editor.

Someone to sit there and decide what is newsworthy and what is not.

Silver Surfer

Silver Surfer said on the 8th Apr, 2009

15 years? I remember when he died and it doesn't seem that long ago. I remember drinking with a bunch of friends at some pub in the Gong and putting on all the Nirvana songs that were in the jukebox.

Yaki

Yaki said on the 8th Apr, 2009

Why is this news!!!?
Wha..? Who doesn't like reading about one of music's, once, brightest and most watched stars continue to dig himself deeper and deeper? Have you got a musical tastebud? His shovel should be just about scraping Obscurity (I think that's on the outskirts of Samstown)!

CureMe

CureMe said on the 8th Apr, 2009

"FL definitely needs a better editor. Someone to sit there and decide what is newsworthy and what is not" FL definitely needs some more interesting patrons, like some who would actually understand what Flowers is saying and maybe even a bit of insight into the term "grunge"....

saimagizzle said on the 8th Apr, 2009

Wow. Up there with Miley Cyrus' Radiohead gaffe.

dkos

dkos said on the 8th Apr, 2009

God damn, you really are a little sad aren't you. You obviously need to get back on the booze.

I find it more than a little pretentious of you to assume that I do not understand what Flowers is saying, especially considering how crudely he said it. I also take offense that you feel I do not have any insight into the term "grunge". But yeah, I'm sorry I offended your poor little FasterLouder.

CureMe

CureMe said on the 8th Apr, 2009

God damn, you really are a little sad aren't you. You obviously need to get back on the booze.

I find it more than a little pretentious of you to assume that I do not understand what Flowers is saying, especially considering how crudely he said it. I also take offense that you feel I do not have any insight into the term "grunge". But yeah, I'm sorry I offended your poor little FasterLouder.

Whoah.... someone not cooking you enough warm toast lately?..

I was in no way offended in what you said, I was just replying..... isn't that what you were doing? Is your new name, "I can give it but can't take it?"

craig123

craig123 said on the 8th Apr, 2009

CureMe - you raise a good point there is merit in Flowers comments, and to understand or take a rigourous view the understanding of the "grunge" movement and reason for its existence is certainly needed.

My concern is about timing - any other time would Flowers be viewed the same way ? The comment is still valid no matter when he says it and if this anniversary wasn't happening then the context of the comment may be better understood.

dkos

dkos said on the 8th Apr, 2009

Whoah.... someone not cooking you enough warm toast lately?..

I was in no way offended in what you said, I was just replying..... isn't that what you were doing? Is your new name, "I can give it but can't take it?"

Quite the opposite, I was simply arguing back. I take this above response to mean "I can give it once, but if someone calls me out on it then I have nothing substantial to return serve."

CureMe

CureMe said on the 8th Apr, 2009

FL is not saying they endorse or agree with what Flowers said, but its two of the biggest names in music and one is having a go and the other is dead.... so he can't really comment can he....

My personal opinion is that he sounds like a dick head... of course Cobain and the "grunge" scene was no fun, he fucking killed himself for Gods sake..... it was all about looking like you didn't care about what you wore, said or did.... the dirtier the better... Of course it wasn't good clean fun...

Heroin anyone???

craig123

craig123 said on the 8th Apr, 2009

not before 4.30 please.

MichaelateNine

MichaelateNine said on the 8th Apr, 2009

I guess he's just Mr Brightside...
Ha. Hahaa...Yeah, sorry.

dkos

dkos said on the 8th Apr, 2009

FL is not saying they endorse or agree with what Flowers said, but its two of the biggest names in music and one is having a go and the other is dead.... so he can't really comment can he....

My personal opinion is that he sounds like a dick head... of course Cobain and the "grunge" scene was no fun, he fucking killed himself for Gods sake..... it was all about looking like you didn't care about what you wore, said or did.... the dirtier the better... Of course it wasn't good clean fun...

Heroin anyone???

I know that. I am not saying that FL endorses what Mr Flowers said. He is saying it most likely in an effort to promote Day & Age to the American public. It's seemingly got very little to do with what Brandon actually thinks about music - he is merely creating a headline.

This is not news.

i_have_ADD

i_have_ADD said on the 8th Apr, 2009

dear dkos/dreamboy

http://www.intelligentrecords.com/Comments/WhySoSerious.jpg

icutmyownhair

icutmyownhair said on the 8th Apr, 2009

There's only one kind of fun you can have with a corpse.

rodismdotcom

rodismdotcom said on the 8th Apr, 2009

Yeah he does but I get the feeling that he honestly believes what he says and that he believes he is being constructive by saying it and not deliberately seeking to be controversial.

Would be interesting to observe the thought process inside his head.

rodismdotcom

rodismdotcom said on the 8th Apr, 2009

Connect them to a battery and play Operation?

icutmyownhair

icutmyownhair said on the 8th Apr, 2009

That would be awesome.

I think this thread is in contravention of the FL Community Guidlines.

JackT

JackT said on the 8th Apr, 2009

As it is not technically news.

Ronny

Ronny said on the 8th Apr, 2009

http://i35.tinypic.com/2vvkvft.jpg
Too Soon?

Braveheart81

Braveheart81 said on the 8th Apr, 2009

God damn, you really are a little sad aren't you. You obviously need to get back on the booze.

I find it more than a little pretentious of you to assume that I do not understand what Flowers is saying, especially considering how crudely he said it. I also take offense that you feel I do not have any insight into the term "grunge". But yeah, I'm sorry I offended your poor little FasterLouder.

To quote a wise and learned man...

Looks like someone woke up on the wrong side of the sybian...

rodismdotcom

rodismdotcom said on the 8th Apr, 2009

As it is not technically news. Farken.

dkos

dkos said on the 8th Apr, 2009

Good call. I wish I had thought of it.

But of course, you are contributor to this website - and of course, you must defend it to the very end!

To quote a wise and learned man...

Looks like someone woke up on the wrong side of the sybian...

Do you generally feel that this 'news' has not wasted part of your day? It's a pointless article, about a pointless happening, and then made to look controversial. Jack - surely you should get a job for NW.

Dexter Ramone

Dexter Ramone said on the 8th Apr, 2009

Why you so grumpy today dkos? I like any excuse to bag out Brandon; especially one that includes fapping over Kurt Cobain.

dkos

dkos said on the 8th Apr, 2009

Because it's not just this article.

Every single article on this website, is brought to the fore by a Sound Alliance employee and then of course- it is discussed on the forum. It is one of the least tactful displays of self-promotion/promotion that I have ever seen.

icutmyownhair

icutmyownhair said on the 8th Apr, 2009

Because it's not just this article.

Every single article on this website, is brought to the fore by a Sound Alliance employee and then of course- it is discussed on the forum. It is one of the least tactful displays of self-promotion/promotion that I have ever seen.

It's true. If I see another MAD or WOO as first comment on an article by an FL staff member I will bite someone.

rodismdotcom

rodismdotcom said on the 8th Apr, 2009

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dkos

dkos said on the 8th Apr, 2009

I'll have you know that I am regular.

Braveheart81

Braveheart81 said on the 8th Apr, 2009

Do you generally feel that this 'news' has not wasted part of your day? It's a pointless article, about a pointless happening, and then made to look controversial. Jack - surely you should get a job for NW.

Not overly. I don't actually read that much news on the website. I mainly just participate on the forums.

I only read the things that interest me.

It's not that bad. New threads give us something to do... Alternatively, someone could just post BDO 2010 after every news article to kick off the thread... That could be kind of funny actually.

Dexter Ramone

Dexter Ramone said on the 8th Apr, 2009

Braveheart summed up my sentiments nicely.

gumbuoy

gumbuoy said on the 8th Apr, 2009

Because it's not just this article.

Every single article on this website, is brought to the fore by a Sound Alliance employee and then of course- it is discussed on the forum. It is one of the least tactful displays of self-promotion/promotion that I have ever seen.

I'm with Braveheart, I actually spend more time on the forums than the rest of the site, and use the titles of the forum threads to see what articles i might wanna read.

And so I like that each news article gets a forum thread to discuss it, since without it, I probably would miss articles.

You dont like it, feel free to head out the door.

CureMe

CureMe said on the 8th Apr, 2009

Everyone just needs to watch this and relax the fuck up....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ld5kLbOI4

sarahanne

sarahanne said on the 8th Apr, 2009

Ill have you know I am the only one who writes mad or woo neither of which i have done for at least...hmmm..two months now

woo

sarahanne

sarahanne said on the 8th Apr, 2009

Oh my god Cure Me. You made my day.

MichaelateNine

MichaelateNine said on the 8th Apr, 2009

Why is this news!!!?
Wha..? Who doesn't like reading about one of music's, once, brightest and most watched stars continue to dig himself deeper and deeper? Have you got a musical tastebud? His shovel should be just about scraping Obscurity (I think that's on the outskirts of Samstown)!

Yeah you just swing a right at the corner of the self-respect of every single person who once thought Brandon Flowers and The Killers were going to be a decent band...At least thats where I last saw mine.

dream_brother

dream_brother said on the 8th Apr, 2009

I quite like The Killers.. I also quite like Nirvana..

This article is just boring as fuck. Simply put.

icutmyownhair

icutmyownhair said on the 8th Apr, 2009

You dont like it, feel free to head out the door.

I think that would defeat the purpose.

kath_white

kath_white said on the 8th Apr, 2009

Sometimes you just have to take the boring music news with the good.

sarahanne

sarahanne said on the 8th Apr, 2009

I hate The Killers. Love Nirvana. And like EVERYTHING on this site - it totally the best place in the world. forever and ever. full stop. no returns.

gumbuoy

gumbuoy said on the 8th Apr, 2009

The purpose of what?

CureMe

CureMe said on the 8th Apr, 2009

For everyone who thought the article was boring... why not go and check out HOHN's myspace site for something a bit more interesting, he made a thread about it and he like .... um doesn't even work for FL.

http://www.myspace.com/hohnsmusic

interpolantics said on the 8th Apr, 2009

Nirvana and The Killers are two of my favorite bands, and Brandon and Kurt are two of my favorite musical personalities.

This is not news.
Brandon has mentioned Nirvana MANY times since the Killers broke-through... about the way they dress, their often negative influence over young people, blah blah blah.

Nirvana are one of the reasons the Killers exist today... not because they are a musical influence, but because he sees them as having negatively impacted American music for a decade (remember of course that Brandon would have grown up in a time in America whereevery young person either loved or hated Nirvana... its pretty easy to see which side he fell into). Everyone knows the Killers' earlier influences were European. An article like this comes as no surprise.

de-tec-tive

de-tec-tive said on the 8th Apr, 2009

i don't think there's anything wrong with the article, i think it's okay if not everything posted on here is a few hundred words (although i don't think that's your reason for disliking it). it's something that probably would have ended up on the forum as discussion anyway, so there might as well be a quick article on it for anyone who wants to search for info/news on The Killers.

i think it's just to encourage discussion on the forum. like someone else said, i also mainly use the forum for news since most articles end up here, and then maybe check the news sections itself once a week in case i've missed something.

Napoleon Solo

Napoleon Solo said on the 8th Apr, 2009

I love Faster Louder, I am always the first person to know shite while all my mates are still trying to catch up via the Drum Media.

I agree to a degree with what he is saying, everything was a tad too serious with Grunge. Nirvana had a fun side though, more often than not it was the media on the end of the joke whether they knew it or not.

dogmongler said on the 8th Apr, 2009

to be honest, as good as grunge was the end does not justify the means. we still have to put up with nickelback.

MichaelateNine

MichaelateNine said on the 8th Apr, 2009

I think a lot of what people (not me, too young) saw of the grunge movement and the Seattle Sound in general was a result of the massive corporate spotlight that was cast over it when the mainstream discovered it. A lot of the sadness is retrospective, sadness at the oppurtunity to really do something different that the people like Kurt and Eddie Vedder lost when the Seattle Sound blew up in the way it did.
I don't think there was anything wrong with the article though. If we participate in a site with invested interests in certain things then, as long as it's discoverable and we are aware of where our info is coming from it isn't really a problem.

arcadeleah said on the 9th Apr, 2009

the Killers are shite Brandon. shut up!

Chan_Marshall

Chan_Marshall said on the 9th Apr, 2009

Brandon Flowers meh. The Killers will never be relevant in the grand scheme of music history.

CureMe

CureMe said on the 9th Apr, 2009

Maybe Flowers was actually the one who "Killed" Kurt??

Anyone want to ask him where he was on April 5th '94?

ThatDude123

ThatDude123 said on the 9th Apr, 2009

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/7/7a/Audio.JPG

Cobain can see Audio. This thread is irrelevant.

lidia_marie said on the 9th Apr, 2009

Napoleon Solo

Napoleon Solo said on the 9th Apr, 2009

I notice that the people calling him a wanker can't even muster up words to argue against what he is saying, complete imbeciles.

icutmyownhair

icutmyownhair said on the 9th Apr, 2009

lock thread please.

CureMe

CureMe said on the 9th Apr, 2009

Snips I'm going to get you to smell the cheese.

I hope you realise that YOU and only YOU are the only one in Australia at the moment who can actually lock a thread......

icutmyownhair

icutmyownhair said on the 9th Apr, 2009

Snips I'm going to get you to smell the cheese.

I hope you realise that YOU and only YOU are the only one in Australia at the moment who can actually lock a thread......

But I love you. And I love this thread. And I love cheese. And sea cucumbers.

Brian B

Brian B said on the 9th Apr, 2009

Snips I'm going to get you to smell the cheese.

I hope you realise that YOU and only YOU are the only one in Australia at the moment who can actually lock a thread......

That is why Snips can safely make that request in EVERY thread.

CureMe

CureMe said on the 9th Apr, 2009

You better or else that block of cheese is going to get harder than the parm in my fridge's top shelf.

http://www.macalester.edu/linguistics/endangered/Tok%20Pisin/Pictures/Sea_cucumber.jpg

Brian B

Brian B said on the 9th Apr, 2009

Tried one of those babies raw?
It gets stuck in your throat on the way down.

Cpt_Pugwash

Cpt_Pugwash said on the 9th Apr, 2009

so your saying you've deep throated a cucumber raw.....did it get excited and vomit?

ho ho ho

Brian B

Brian B said on the 9th Apr, 2009

It was raw, but it was dead.
No vomitus (on its part).

Napoleon Solo

Napoleon Solo said on the 9th Apr, 2009

I would just like to point out on behalf of the thought deprived Brandon bashers.
He doesn't seem to mind the fun sucked out of music if it is performed by Joy Division....Wanker