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Date set for Chinese Democracy

Fri 10th Oct, 2008 in International News

Chinese Democracy has now entered the public lexicon as – œpromise that never delivers’, but in November Guns N’ Roses will finally drop its embattled ‘new’ album. FasterLouder has received confirmation from Universal Music Australia that it is indeed on its way, set for a Sunday 23 November release.

The (multi)-million dollar question, though, is will it be worth the wait? Chinese Democracy certainly has a cracking back-story. Axl Rose began work on the album way back in 1994, allegedly chalking up more than $13 million in production costs along the way. A long list of executives and producers has been called in to steer Rose towards completion, but the frontman has been distracted by lengthy lawsuits and personal upsets. The album has been so shrouded in secrecy that an American blogger who leaked some of its tracks in August was arrested and charged.

It’s hard to believe that after such a tumultuous (and not particularly fan-friendly) history, Chinese Democracy can shed its baggage and go gangbusters. In November, we’ll know if the Gunners have still got it…

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sarahanne

sarahanne said on the 10th Oct, 2008

If those leaked tracks were anything to go by soon "Chinese Democracy" will mean - 'something that takes a lifetime to complete and results in an epic fail'

Braveheart81

Braveheart81 said on the 10th Oct, 2008

I'm sure the album will be better than being run over by a tank in Tiananmen Square.

Possibly only slightly better though...

dankobiaka

dankobiaka said on the 10th Oct, 2008

I wonder if Dr Pepper will keep their promise and give everyone in the US a free can.

(http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003741826)

yeoman

yeoman said on the 10th Oct, 2008

I'll download it. fuck you axl

sarahanne

sarahanne said on the 10th Oct, 2008

I wonder if Dr Pepper will keep their promise and give everyone in the US a free can.

(http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003741826)

How funny...

Roland

Roland said on the 10th Oct, 2008

no slash = no guns n roses

Armen Firman

Armen Firman said on the 10th Oct, 2008

I'll believe it when I see it... sitting in the bargain bin.

Roland

Roland said on the 10th Oct, 2008

no slash = no guns n roses

saimagizzle

saimagizzle said on the 10th Oct, 2008

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/10/10/2387232.htm

Nov 23, according to the ABC.

gumbuoy

gumbuoy said on the 10th Oct, 2008

guys guys guys, the title of the article says the Date Is Set, but then the article says there's no official date?

cocktease, much? :)

summutha

summutha said on the 10th Oct, 2008

OMG, Steal my thunder, look at the blog I posted last week ! Theft.....

dankobiaka

dankobiaka said on the 10th Oct, 2008



I don't see it. Link?

JackT

JackT said on the 10th Oct, 2008

guys guys guys, the title of the article says the Date Is Set, but then the article says there's no official date?

cocktease, much? :)

This is true. Maybe 'Date Set' is a little too specific, but hey, at least we know November!

JackT

JackT said on the 10th Oct, 2008

^^^ I dunno dude, we certainly didn't get it from your blog.

summutha

summutha said on the 10th Oct, 2008

http://blogs.fasterlouder.com.au/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=38554&blogId=33899
Try this

summutha

summutha said on the 10th Oct, 2008

LOL, It's good to know I'm atleast a week ahead of the general media ! ;-)

JackT

JackT said on the 10th Oct, 2008

Ha ha, good call!

saimagizzle

saimagizzle said on the 10th Oct, 2008

Date is Nov 23rd. Sunday, because it fits in with Best Buy's sales schedule.

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003872663

See!

Australian date, well, does it matter? If you're all getting Skwerl-ed on this thing, you would have torrented it.

dkos

dkos said on the 10th Oct, 2008

Hahahahahhaa!

dream_brother

dream_brother said on the 10th Oct, 2008

I'll put bets on their being bonus tracks consisting of:

- Welcome to the Jungle [Daft Punk Mash-up]
- November Rain [MSTRKRFT Instrumental mix]

dankobiaka

dankobiaka said on the 10th Oct, 2008

I'll put bets on their being bonus tracks consisting of:

- Welcome to the Jungle [Daft Punk Mash-up]
- November Rain [MSTRKRFT Instrumental mix]

hahaha..

I wouldn't be suprised if these songs already exist

dream_brother

dream_brother said on the 10th Oct, 2008

hahaha..

I wouldn't be suprised if these songs already exist

haha, you're gay.

dankobiaka

dankobiaka said on the 10th Oct, 2008



ahh I love the FasterLouder forums...

craig123

craig123 said on the 10th Oct, 2008

i;ll believe it when I see it ..... but am still keen as I was way back when .....

craig123

craig123 said on the 10th Oct, 2008

i;ll believe it when I see it ..... but am still keen as I was way back when .....

craig123

craig123 said on the 10th Oct, 2008

i;ll believe it when I see it ..... but am still keen as I was way back when .....

craig123

craig123 said on the 10th Oct, 2008

i;ll believe it when I see it ..... but am still keen as I was way back when .....

craig123

craig123 said on the 10th Oct, 2008

i;ll believe it when I see it ..... but am still keen as I was way back when .....

craig123

craig123 said on the 10th Oct, 2008

wtf happened with my posting ..... damn ......

Braveheart81

Braveheart81 said on the 10th Oct, 2008













If you're posting from the main fasterlouder page, only hit submit once.

Otherwise that happens...

mooney88

mooney88 said on the 10th Oct, 2008

as a massive appetite for destruction fan, i will no doubt be dissapointed

Petebix

Petebix said on the 11th Oct, 2008

such fun

Rug666

Rug666 said on the 11th Oct, 2008

The songs I've heard from the album sound pretty cool. Looking forward to this album a lot!

Rug666

Rug666 said on the 11th Oct, 2008

The songs I've heard from the album sound pretty cool. Looking forward to this album a lot!

electronic wolf

electronic wolf said on the 11th Oct, 2008

as anyone read SPIN: 20 years (title is longer cbf remembering)

there is a chapter on guns and roses and the shit that comes out of Axl's mouth si so fucking dumb,

dude has no clue.

equally not exceited for this album.

he also invited eagles of death metal to support g n' r at a show, proceeded to walk on stage after they finished, saying "lets thank the pigeons of shit metal"

and then expected them to thank him for letting them support and show there respect.

all in all my point is, Axl Rose your a fuckhead, stop hanging onto something that is dead.

oh and who is the new guitarist? like bee foot or something? so retarted.

dankobiaka

dankobiaka said on the 11th Oct, 2008

as anyone read SPIN: 20 years (title is longer cbf remembering)

there is a chapter on guns and roses and the shit that comes out of Axl's mouth si so fucking dumb,

dude has no clue.

equally not exceited for this album.

he also invited eagles of death metal to support g n' r at a show, proceeded to walk on stage after they finished, saying "lets thank the pigeons of shit metal"

and then expected them to thank him for letting them support and show there respect.

all in all my point is, Axl Rose your a fuckhead, stop hanging onto something that is dead.

oh and who is the new guitarist? like bee foot or something? so retarted.

Yes, I definately think Axl's ego was his downfall.

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 11th Oct, 2008



Really?
'Cause we fucking hate you.

MegX

MegX said on the 11th Oct, 2008

Given the economic crisis at the moment, I predict Universal will hold the release up til December, cashing in for Christmas. That's if they're dinkum about it being released at all.

dankobiaka

dankobiaka said on the 11th Oct, 2008

Does anyone know if that $13mil production cost was paid entirely by the recording label? or did Axl have to resort to financing some of it himself?

I find it hard to believe the label would be continuously willing to invest in such a costly project with no guarantee the album would even be completed, let alone commercially successful.

mooney88

mooney88 said on the 11th Oct, 2008

this is not their 6th album by the way

friday

friday said on the 12th Oct, 2008

who cares

friday

friday said on the 12th Oct, 2008

who cares

iNegro

iNegro said on the 12th Oct, 2008

It's going to get the "Death Magnetic" treatment.
While being only slightly better then Death magnetic.. So that's at least a 0.5/5.

mooney88

mooney88 said on the 12th Oct, 2008

death magnetic is def better that a 0.5

iNegro

iNegro said on the 12th Oct, 2008

true. a 1.

mooney88

mooney88 said on the 12th Oct, 2008

just because its not master of puppets doesnt mean its not good.

iNegro

iNegro said on the 12th Oct, 2008

If it wasn't released by Metallica it wouldn't have gotten the critical reaction it did.

worldsfastest

worldsfastest said on the 12th Oct, 2008



if it wasn't released by metallica, it would be the best metal album since puppets but because Metallica released everyone thinks their clever for degrading it.

iNegro

iNegro said on the 12th Oct, 2008



If it wasn't released by metallica it certainly wouldn't be the best metal album since puppets, cause there have been lots of better metal albums before and after puppets and i don't think i'm clever for degrading it. I listened the the album and i like the think i have a relatively good idea on music and i've listened to alot of metal and the album after hearing it about 20 times, hasn't done anything.

worldsfastest

worldsfastest said on the 12th Oct, 2008

well there's no point arguing, you're either gonna like it or think its another st anger

i think its a worthy album

iNegro

iNegro said on the 12th Oct, 2008

Oh i don't think it's another saint anger at all, It's better then that, It's just regurgitated riffs and old people trying to be something they were 20 years ago...and it just feels reused.

worldsfastest

worldsfastest said on the 12th Oct, 2008

fair call
but if it keeps em touring, im happy

grattan

grattan said on the 17th Oct, 2008

Art and track list
http://assets1.pitchforkmedia.com/images/original/146566.chinesedemocracy.jpg

01 Chinese Democracy
02 Scraped
03 Shackler's Revenge
04 Street of Dreams
05 If the World
06 Better
07 This I Love
08 There Was a Time
09 Riad N' the Bedovins
10 Sorry
11 I.R.S.
12 Catcher
13 Madagascar
14 Prostitute

JackT

JackT said on the 17th Oct, 2008

Hmm, curious artwork.

grattan

grattan said on the 17th Oct, 2008



Yeah, if the album's as good as the cover...

mooney88

mooney88 said on the 17th Oct, 2008

omfg worst cover art EVER

Braveheart81

Braveheart81 said on the 17th Oct, 2008

Art and track list
http://assets1.pitchforkmedia.com/images/original/146566.chinesedemocracy.jpg


That's what Axl Rose will be able to buy with the proceeds from this album (after you take away the costs of making it for the last xxx years).

Macanleister

Macanleister said on the 19th Oct, 2008

I'm sure the album will be better than being run over by a tank in Tiananmen Square.

Possibly only slightly better though...
That's generally over pretty quick though.

After all the time and money, I was sort of expecting something a bit more epic than that cover on a disc containing a mere 14 tracks.

dkos

dkos said on the 19th Oct, 2008



Are you kidding?

This album is going to sell like hot cakes from McDonalds at 10.29am.

Macanleister

Macanleister said on the 20th Oct, 2008

Rumour has it there's 10 mastered tracks already been leaked. I don't know where though.

mooney88

mooney88 said on the 22nd Oct, 2008

i know it will suck major dick

but im heaps keen to hear this record.