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The Jezabels’ Hayley Marylashes out at critics:“Fucking get a real job”

Although she claims she didn’t actually read any reviews of The Jezabels’ second album The Brink, frontwoman Hayley Mary really doesn’t like music critics.

“There is too much hatred in the world to have a job that is based on writing off what other people try and do,” Mary commented to Music Feeds. “I don’t mind when people criticise politicians, or like the army or something [but] musicians are just writing songs. You don’t need to get all vitriolic about the situation.”

Mary said the majority of critics don’t “get” her band’s music, and it’s annoying they continue to write about it. “Clearly it’s not for you, so you’re communicating something that’s not that helpful to someone who might potentially like it, or not like it. It’s just hate,” she claimed. “There are a few great reviewers in Australia and the world, obviously, that just do their job really well but the majority of them have already decided that they hate the band.”

In her review of reviewers, Mary singled out FL sister site Mess+Noise as representative of “a certain school of critics in every territory that fucking hate us and sort of always were going to.” She said critics like this should “fucking get a real job”.

For the record, the M+N review described the record of “cookie-cutter anthems” as “flaccid and uninspiring”, but also noted that there is “no shortage of catchy, hummable, singalong choruses” and that the band makes “exceptionally well-made pop music”. Other critics have described The Brink – which reached #2 on the ARIA charts and has an aggregated score of 58 on Metacritic – as “far too pedestrian”, “slick yet uninvolving” and “half as compelling as it could have been”.

The Jezabels will play a run of headline dates including two shows at the Sydney Opera House next month in addition to their tour with Groovin’ The Moo festival. Check out their tour dates here.

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Plain Views

Plain Views said on the 11th Mar, 2014

politicians and like the army aren't they just the worst. like seriously, like OMG

loudQUIETloud

loudQUIETloud said on the 11th Mar, 2014

"flaccid and uninspiring" is a perfect description of the album really.

gumbuoy

gumbuoy said on the 11th Mar, 2014



Oh no. If only there was some way for that person to sample the music themselves, rather than slaving their opinion to a reviewers.

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 11th Mar, 2014

All hail the blandest band in all the land.

Lucan

Lucan said on the 11th Mar, 2014

Music reviewers who just sh!t-can everything don't tend to last long anyhoo.

Braveheart81

Braveheart81 said on the 11th Mar, 2014

Music reviewers tend to have real jobs. Either that or they're really poor.

How many full time professional music critics are there in Australia? There'd surely only be a handful.

Napoleon Solo

Napoleon Solo said on the 11th Mar, 2014

First album was good, the latest is shite.
How has she managed to exist in society while escaping criticism till now, was she a special ed student?

berlinchair101

berlinchair101 said on the 11th Mar, 2014

The JeZzzzzzz Zzzzzzzz Zzzzz Zzz

deanoss

deanoss said on the 11th Mar, 2014

job
noun
a paid position of regular employment.
a task or piece of work, especially one that is paid.

Considering about 90% of music reviewers don't fall into the above category, and they do it as a labour of love, I doubt any of them would be losing any sleep over these comments

Minaloy

Minaloy said on the 12th Mar, 2014

most musicians should get a real job

Demosthenes

Demosthenes said on the 12th Mar, 2014

Must have been taking notes from that fella from the Howling Bells that got all het up over their second album getting a caning.

Plain Views

Plain Views said on the 12th Mar, 2014

if the critics "fucking get a real job"
they'd better make sure that its not a job as a politician or in 'the army or something' otherwise they'll have to deal with criticism from this moron.

grattan

grattan said on the 12th Mar, 2014

Tips on how to not review the Jezabels second album

shazie

shazie said on the 12th Mar, 2014



I beg to differ:

http://www.ripitup.com.au/images/uploads/blog/Music/2013/Feb/0213The_Rubens_4292high.jpg

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 12th Mar, 2014

Fittingly enough, I forgot they existed.

Demosthenes

Demosthenes said on the 12th Mar, 2014

http://www.theaureview.com/sites/default/files/7427_Josh%2BPyke.jpg

my contender.

berlinchair101

berlinchair101 said on the 12th Mar, 2014

I like Josh Pyke.

The best thing about the Rubens is that just by looking at their heads you can tell they are from Hicksville.

Demosthenes

Demosthenes said on the 12th Mar, 2014

He writes furniture music (and that's an insult to Satie).

gumbuoy

gumbuoy said on the 12th Mar, 2014

I like Josh Pyke's live show, but only when he has a band behind him, not solo. Then again, it's probably been 4-5 years since I saw him, so he might have downgraded.

But noone beats the Rubens.

Demosthenes

Demosthenes said on the 12th Mar, 2014

I wanted to like him; i even went to live shows but it was all meh. I must be defective.

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 12th Mar, 2014

Yeah, I quite like Josh Pyke. Hate to be That GuyTM, but I do prefer his earlier work.

dream_brother

dream_brother said on the 12th Mar, 2014

I get what she's saying. It may not be exceptionally well-put, but I guess it can be frustrating to have your work judged by people that are a) not apart of the creative process and b) potentially still at an age in their life where their perception of music does have a certain level of alignment with the majority of the scene.

I haven't listened to the most recent Jezabels album, though I did like the first one. It could well be a total piece of shit, but I still get what she's trying to say.

Out of curiosity, do people on here read reviews for the purpose of ascertaining whether or not they might listen to a particular release and/or more out of curiosity to see if their opinion aligns with that of the reviewer?

Demosthenes

Demosthenes said on the 12th Mar, 2014



I do. It's been established that I'm pretty weird though.

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 12th Mar, 2014

Demos reads a review:

"Well, there's nothing here about Godspeed. I'm out."

Demosthenes

Demosthenes said on the 12th Mar, 2014

Demos reads a review:

"Well, there's nothing here about Godspeed. I'm out."

Or Taylor Swift.

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 12th Mar, 2014

We Are Never Ever Raising Our Skinny Fists Together

Demosthenes

Demosthenes said on the 12th Mar, 2014



I'd pay good money to see and hear that.

Demosthenes

Demosthenes said on the 12th Mar, 2014



I dunno.

To steal from Chuck Palahniuk, isn't the critics' hate better than their indifference?

Better to get a reaction than an indifferent shrug in this dog-eat-dog industry.

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 12th Mar, 2014

Pictured: Hayley Mary.

http://www.guitarforworship.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Ron-Burgundy-in-a-Glass-Case-of-Emotion.png

gumbuoy

gumbuoy said on the 12th Mar, 2014



That's the risk you take. Like the APS piece said - their publicist sent advance copies of the album to pubs for review. Like D said - at least they're getting attention. I bet there are thousands of bands who would love to at least have reviews of their work being published.



I read reviews to try to find out what kind of music it is (as well as whether or not it's any good at being that kind of music), which isn't always easy depending on the reviewer, a lot of them do like to faff around.

But I also try not to read any reviews of albums that I myself will be reviewing, until after I've written mine.

Nosyt

Nosyt said on the 12th Mar, 2014

I rarely read (semi) professional reviews, I just use certain websites to see what's trending.

That said if I like what a certain poster has posted I find out what else they've recommended and I usually love the more esoteric stuff they have posted.

Minaloy

Minaloy said on the 12th Mar, 2014

she probably complained to her parents and the principal at school when her english teacher gave her a c minus

billymumphrey

billymumphrey said on the 12th Mar, 2014

i can't wait for her end of fashion style rant in a few years claiming jjj ruined their career, conveniently neglecting the quality of their second album as one of the potential reasons...

dream_brother

dream_brother said on the 12th Mar, 2014

I dunno.

To steal from Chuck Palahniuk, isn't the critics' hate better than their indifference?

Better to get a reaction than an indifferent shrug in this dog-eat-dog industry.

That's the risk you take. Like the APS piece said - their publicist sent advance copies of the album to pubs for review. Like D said - at least they're getting attention. I bet there are thousands of bands who would love to at least have reviews of their work being published.



I read reviews to try to find out what kind of music it is (as well as whether or not it's any good at being that kind of music), which isn't always easy depending on the reviewer, a lot of them do like to faff around.

But I also try not to read any reviews of albums that I myself will be reviewing, until after I've written mine.

Both fair points. I just think back a few years ago when reviews would've influenced me more than they do now (in the sense that I'm more ok with liking what I used to deem "vanilla" music these days). The reviews seem pretty even-keeled though; there's some good with the bad.

If they sent advance copies out for reviews then they really can't complain if they're not getting the response they were hoping for.

berlinchair101

berlinchair101 said on the 12th Mar, 2014

I like reading reviews of 'tastemaker' sites like Pitchfork or whatever to see where my opinion matches up, but otherwise I read reviews mostly when I'm curious about a band I haven't had a chance to listen to.

berlinchair101

berlinchair101 said on the 12th Mar, 2014

The Needle Drop & Dead End Hip Hop are my go to review locations.

(Sorry FL overlords)

Jose Cuervo

Jose Cuervo said on the 12th Mar, 2014

I dont read reviews, I just have Shazie and Ramone tell me what to listen to

berlinchair101

berlinchair101 said on the 12th Mar, 2014

Shazie
Ramone
Jose
Jace
Becks
MAB
lQl
The Post-Rock Thread
WAAYCLT Thread

All more useful than most album reviews.

snapcrackleROCK

snapcrackleROCK said on the 12th Mar, 2014

We've released three:

- one ignored by the world
- one glowing review
- one review mostly negative.

And the beat goes on, da da dum da da dah.

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 12th Mar, 2014

Shazie
Ramone
Jose
Jace
Becks
MAB
lQl
The Post-Rock Thread
WAAYCLT Thread

All more useful than most album reviews.

Blushing!

dream_brother

dream_brother said on the 12th Mar, 2014

I generally do find that the What album are you listening to thread is the best way to find new music.

If Jace or Stefan have something up that I haven't heard it's usually a safe bet that I'll at least find it enjoyable.

Asides that, if something has sick artwork I'll give it a chance.

Sex Cauldron

Sex Cauldron said on the 12th Mar, 2014

This all screams, I NEED APPROVAL & I WANT TO BE LIKED.....WON'T SOMEONE NOTICE ME!!!1111!!!!1111

snapcrackleROCK

snapcrackleROCK said on the 13th Mar, 2014

No, but capital letters and excessive exclamation marks do, though.

RAMONESelaar

RAMONESelaar said on the 13th Mar, 2014

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/1800256_10151909534640938_1394384416_n.jpg

grattan

grattan said on the 16th Apr, 2014

“The one thing I don’t want to give into is certain streams of criticism that require that old-fashioned notion of authenticity you have to have to be good, particularly in this country. They love pub-rock, they love The Drones, they love dudes singing raw music, and I know what we could do to get a good review from all the people that have always and will always hate us, but I don’t ever want to do that. Because I feel like what I do is quite a girly thing and I don’t ever want to change it to get the recognition of the fathers of music criticism. I want to keep going despite them."

“There’s a whole tradition of stuff that appeals to women that is considered low culture and crap, but sometimes I just think it’s because it appeals to the feminine side of people that it’s considered low culture. It’s something that’s started bothering me as I got into this industry, if you look throughout history at what is considered crap, or the standard of bad, it’s also, I don’t think coincidentally, defined by who likes it, and it’s always teenage girls. And the standard of what’s good for music is always middle-aged men that like it. I don’t think that’s a coincidence. I think it’s inherently the kind of sexist standpoint of music criticism.”

http://s8.postimg.org/ubxvha9ut/16_04_2014_4_44_47_PM.jpg

Braveheart81

Braveheart81 said on the 16th Apr, 2014

They really haven't gotten over getting a mediocre review have they?

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 16th Apr, 2014

“The one thing I don’t want to give into is certain streams of criticism that require that old-fashioned notion of authenticity you have to have to be good, particularly in this country. They love pub-rock, they love The Drones, they love dudes singing raw music, and I know what we could do to get a good review from all the people that have always and will always hate us, but I don’t ever want to do that. Because I feel like what I do is quite a girly thing and I don’t ever want to change it to get the recognition of the fathers of music criticism. I want to keep going despite them."

“There’s a whole tradition of stuff that appeals to women that is considered low culture and crap, but sometimes I just think it’s because it appeals to the feminine side of people that it’s considered low culture. It’s something that’s started bothering me as I got into this industry, if you look throughout history at what is considered crap, or the standard of bad, it’s also, I don’t think coincidentally, defined by who likes it, and it’s always teenage girls. And the standard of what’s good for music is always middle-aged men that like it. I don’t think that’s a coincidence. I think it’s inherently the kind of sexist standpoint of music criticism.”

https://31.media.tumblr.com/46fcd0ad477ac0577df3a14d0c1d8040/tumblr_n3m4jvvoHZ1tpg4boo1_400.gif

berlinchair101

berlinchair101 said on the 16th Apr, 2014

http://i.imgur.com/8L7zQli.gif

Nosyt

Nosyt said on the 16th Apr, 2014

You can't criticises anyone who isn't a white male aged 18 - 45 anymore.

You can try but you'll just be given a barrage of tumblr gifs in response.

Jose Cuervo

Jose Cuervo said on the 16th Apr, 2014

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3yae6zYz91qeem48.gif

monokhrome_nite

monokhrome_nite said on the 16th Apr, 2014

You can't criticises anyone who isn't a white male aged 18 - 45 anymore.

You can try but you'll just be given a barrage of tumblr gifs in response.

http://blog.chron.com/tubular/files/2012/11/tumblr_md155rTdVr1qlvwnco1_400.gif

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 16th Apr, 2014

Pictured: Nosyt

http://media.giphy.com/media/13OWrpsB8XQdDa/giphy.gif

loudQUIETloud

loudQUIETloud said on the 16th Apr, 2014

[youtube]mpHK2mb-FKk[/youtube]

csgoh

csgoh said on the 18th Apr, 2014

This band has been pickled by the music business

They didnt have to write another song after Hurt Me, not really!