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An open letter to Billy Corgan

Self-confessed Pumpkins fanatic DAVID SWAN gives Billy Corgan some home-truths following a disappointing performance at Melbourne’s Hisense Arena last week.


Dear Billy,

First of all I just want to point out that, as a pretty big fan, I was super psyched for your show.

Right from opener Quasar, the first half of new album Oceania is shimmering, swirling, epic rock. I know you’re proud of it, and so you should be. It’s very, very solid. But did you really have to keep going and play the whole thing? All 60 minutes of it?

I don’t want to sound like your uncle, but being in a multi-platinum, multi-Grammy award winning rock band comes with a certain responsibility. A responsibility to ensure that you’re not playing to your inner-critic, or to all the naysayers, but to the thousands of people whose favourite albums were in the mid-nineties, and whose breakups, marriages and “first times” were soundtracked by your albums.

They didn’t come to see a 2012 album played in full, along with old obscure album tracks and a couple of hits thrown in.

I know you probably saw some fans walking out during the set, especially towards the end. Quite a few, in fact. You see, Billy, for every fan screaming your name and jumping down and singing along to every lyric, no matter how obscure, was another bored fan on their phone or opting to leave altogether. You were too self-conscious in putting together the setlist; too determined to prove the rock critics wrong by playing the album in full; and too faithful to your diehard fans by playing obscure tracks, even b-sides ( XYU, Soot and Stars, Luna), that only they would know.

Your self-described “one of a kind” show wasn’t quite epic by ‘U2 360’ standards, but clearly with more of a budget this would have been the dream. The giant orb that eclipsed the stage, used to its full potential during the ‘Oceania’ portion of the show, was all very theatrical, and seemed like an inspired decision. But the orb dimmed for the second half of the set (for the non- Oceania songs), leaving a distracting blank sphere. At least it played one music video, during Bullet with Butterfly Wings, but come on Billy, surely you know if you’re going to do something, do it properly?

Don’t be too disheartened. Oceania as an album took on an extra level when accompanied by that bizarre visual element. Your Bowie Space Oddity cover was probably the highlight of the night and you clearly had a lot of fun playing it. Your band also truly seems like it’s coming together, and will hopefully stick around.

But playing to a half-empty Hisense Arena to begin with meant the atmosphere only had so much potential to begin with. This was probably a result of doggedly insisting on playing Oceania in full, and a natural effect of you being big in the nineties and not-so big now. I’m sure you’re used to it. Look, kudos for at least touring your new album and not simply relying on a by-the-numbers ‘greatest hits’ show (which you gracelessly pointed out to the audience). It’s just more of a middle ground would’ve been nice.

Good job on the new drummer though, man. Mike Byrne might be not even half your age, but he certainly knows his way around the kit. Anyone that can live up to Jimmy Chamberlin in terms of speed and sheer bombast deserves a tick. Try and get along with him please.

It was also a nice touch coming out to see the crowd after the house lights had gone on, and waving to fan after fan. They will remember that pure moment, long after their memory of the divisive stage performance dies.

Anyway, next time just don’t care so much. You don’t have to play a new album in full for it to be a critical success in its own right. You don’t have to wear normal, ‘average people’ clothes. Fuck it, bring back the dress.

Still yours and smiling politely as always,

DS

Related: Words of wisdom from Billy Corgan

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Matty 182

Matty 182 said on the 6th Aug, 2012

this was my third pumpkins show, and i would put it up there as the best one i've seen, was great to see them perform oceania in full, x.y.u and luna (which are not b sides) were the highlights of the set for me. quit livin in the past, billy has been quite open in the media in saying what these shows would entail. if people don't want to see the whole album performed live then don't go. the real let down of the night was the terrible performance by wolfmother, fuck that just felt awkward to watch.

Stugalug

Stugalug said on the 6th Aug, 2012

Lord Voldemort isn't interested in pleasing the masses.

doubtfulsounds

doubtfulsounds said on the 6th Aug, 2012

Weird, in a world where nearly every live gig follows the same format of singer out front, drummer at the back, cliched stage banter and obligatory encores isn't it refreshing that a band does something slightly different to their other shows and plays an album in full (even if it is becoming quite commonplace). You get the best of both worlds, a bunch of 'the hits' and a start to finish album experience which most people knew was the case going into the show. Regardless of whether the new album is good or bad it is still nice to see them tinkering with the format and indulging themselves. I'd rather see a band enjoying themselves doing that than begrudgingly churning out the hits for the masses. After a number of tours here Corgan has surely earned the right to play with the formula a bit. I wasn't overly excited by the Sydney show but I got the impression the crowd enjoyed it and left satisfied.

HEAD OF STATE

HEAD OF STATE said on the 6th Aug, 2012

I think it was a great showcase of his new album, and he is making quality music, so why shouldn't he play it. Back in 1994 he probably played 75% of Siamese Dream ad you wouldn't have complained. And Oceania is a classic. I do not agree with this letter.

monokhrome_nite

monokhrome_nite said on the 6th Aug, 2012

Is XYU really that obscure, though?

Anyway, I really wouldn't mind all the new and/or hopelessly obscure stuff as long as there were enough 1979's and Mayonaise's to balance it all out. I suppose that's the point of the article. Oh well.

Stugalug

Stugalug said on the 6th Aug, 2012



Yeah, with the other 25% from Gish. He didn't have half a dozen records to create a set list from in 1994. What was he suppose to play?

borgy

borgy said on the 6th Aug, 2012

i agree with this. oceania is a great album. but the setlist was just too hell bent on proving something to critics of newer pumpkins material. it was a bit joyless and contrived a lot like the forced rawkness of zeitgeist which came on the back of criticism billy corgan received for his 2005 solo album and solo shows. the new lineup of the smashing pumpkins is an excellent live band but their setlist was dull. they needed to mix it up with other tracks, it doesn't have to be just singles, especially if billy corgan is bored of them ... (honestly how bored did he sound during bullet with butterfly wings & tonight tonight??). a good balance would work wonders, like playing a little something of every album (including machina ii). having said that though i was still grateful to be there and see a legendary musician in the flesh.

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 6th Aug, 2012

BREAKING: Tom and Sarah set to start a band with Kram, Janet and Whitt called Linkbait.

retrovertigo

retrovertigo said on the 6th Aug, 2012

but did you really have to keep going and play the whole thing? all 60 minutes of it?

dude, every interview about the album/tour up til now billy has said "the plan is to play the whole album". in fact didn't you interview him personally where he said this was the case?

playing obscure tracks,even b-sides ( xyu, soot and stars, luna)
-xyu & luna are album tracks, only soot & stars is a b-side.

but the orb dimmed for the second half of the set (for the non-_oceania_ songs), leaving a distracting blank sphere... (oh your poor eyes!)

anyway, next time just don%u2019t care so much.

spot on buddy ;)

naysayer

naysayer said on the 6th Aug, 2012

in a recent interview corgan said that he knew that these days he'll be playing to 20 - 4,000 people per night and he was comfortable in that because he knows that every last one of those people are super-fans. i was at this show. i flew from the gold coast to be there and it is among the top 5 rock shows i've ever been to. everyone there knew that the oceania set (which was brilliant) was to be followed by a steady flow of greatest hits. everyone, except for this guy, seemed to know that! i saw them in 2008 when it seemed as if he was just going through the motions but this time he was on fire with every chord. from the optimism of oceania, corgan transformed in a few seconds to the angst rock of x.y.u. the musicanship was brilliant. oceania was epic. the greatest hit set seemed spontaneous and riveting. i honestly don't know what this guy's complaining about! or maybe he's a member of the generation with minute attention spans who need to check their phones every 2-3 minutes. corgan can do what he wants. he's earned that right and now he wants to play for the fans.

deanoss

deanoss said on the 6th Aug, 2012

Agreed, it was a terrible choice of venue, even Festival Hall by comparison would have suited better.
The new album is great, and I would have thought that by now Billy has earned the right to do what the fuck he likes on stage. He is at least true to his word, didn't just play the hits for the fans, touring for the right reasons, and at least made the visuals spectacular.
I'd have to say it hands down beats the previous set they played at Festival Hall. And performance wise, the set was flawless.
Playing a new album in full certainly tests the patience of the older fans (It's no The Wall) but I thought it was performed really well.

jacegalvin

jacegalvin said on the 6th Aug, 2012

By the sounds of it, these shows weren't as good as the SITG shows.

At Splendour, they played 3 tracks from the new album and the rest of the set were just the hits.

I thought they were great.

batdan

batdan said on the 6th Aug, 2012

By the sounds of it, these shows weren't as good as the SITG shows.

At Splendour, they played 3 tracks from the new album and the rest of the set were just the hits.

I thought they were great.

To me this sounds like a perfect festival set and the Sideshow aimed more for the diehard fans.

studioprisoner

studioprisoner said on the 6th Aug, 2012

i started typing a whole heartily response to this awful review but it's not worth it. you're a disgruntled former fan who is dwelling in the past too much.

i'm a self-confessed pumpkin fanatic, and i loved the show. you? you certainly do not fit the profile of a fanatic.

berlinchair101

berlinchair101 said on the 6th Aug, 2012

I think there would have been less complaints if he played the whole new record spread around the old songs, as opposed splitting the set in two.

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 6th Aug, 2012



Well, thank FUCK for that.

berlinchair101

berlinchair101 said on the 6th Aug, 2012

I've always thought of fanatics as being more critical. They know everything about the subject, so they should really know when they are at their worst.

de-tec-tive

de-tec-tive said on the 6th Aug, 2012

this is the dumbest thing I've read all day, it's impossible for a band to be able to please everyone, I can't believe someone went to the effort of writing all this out and posting it on here as an article. whinging is for the forum.

davidswan

davidswan said on the 6th Aug, 2012

i started typing a whole heartily response to this awful review but it's not worth it. you're a disgruntled former fan who is dwelling in the past too much.

i'm a self-confessed pumpkin fanatic, and i loved the show. you? you certainly do not fit the profile of a fanatic.

I'm not dwelling in the past, but sitting through 60 minutes of a strong but uneven album, when a band has seven other albums to draw from, is kinda excruciating. sorry for not being as fanatical as yourself.



This is the dumbest comment I've read all day, reviews are of course subjective, they're based on my reaction, some negative reviews will definitely fall into the category of "whinging". Not every review is going to be super positive and kissing the band's arse. Yes I had a whinge. And I justified it.

By the sounds of it, these shows weren't as good as the SITG shows.

At Splendour, they played 3 tracks from the new album and the rest of the set were just the hits.

I thought they were great.

Spot on really, I enjoyed the Splendour set, but this was just way too much. The Splendour set had balance and variety, here Billy's setlist was just over the top for the sake of being a martyr.

Braveheart81

Braveheart81 said on the 6th Aug, 2012

I tend to think that if Smashing Pumpkins want to play their new album from start to finish they should play much smaller venues that maybe reflect an album that peaked at Number 8 on the ARIA Charts.

Captain Smashed

Captain Smashed said on the 6th Aug, 2012

It's a tricky one. I have been to two concerts where the band performed two sets with one involving an album in full: Sonic Youth and W.A.S.P. The difference was - more so with Sonic Youth as my mate is a big fan of W.A.S.P. and I went with him - that I knew Sonic Youth's Daydream Nation album well but am unfamiliar with the Pumkins' Oceania. I doubt there is ever going to be such a thing as an all-pleasing perfect setlist.

redman300_bulldogs

redman300_bulldogs said on the 6th Aug, 2012

He said before even coming to Australia that the performances weren't for the old school fans but for the new up-and-coming fans that hadn't necessarily experienced The Smashing Pumpkins before...

Brendo1983

Brendo1983 said on the 6th Aug, 2012

just the sort of knob billy hates. he is not a jukebox he is an artist.

berlinchair101

berlinchair101 said on the 6th Aug, 2012

Billy Corgan makes music I like a lot, but I don't think I would want to sit down for a beer with him.

retrovertigo

retrovertigo said on the 6th Aug, 2012



well that's a bit rude!! i agree that he ain't a jukebox but c'mon it's an opinion piece + i think you're also a bit presumptuous saying billy is as angry as yourself!! :)

Eva Mars

Eva Mars said on the 6th Aug, 2012

what a bullshit review! "being in a multi-platinum, multi-grammy award winning rock band comes with a certain responsibility" -bahahaha!!....this is why i love billy corgan. because he has, and always will, say a big "f*** you" to apparent "fans" like you....or any other idiot who walked out because they were too stupid to have noticed the multiple times billy has announced he will be playing oceania in full from start to finish! an artist creates what he wants to create. he has an "obligation" to be true to himself and his art. not you, or whining fans that want to turn back time! this is 2012! not the 90's! and "old obscure album tracks"?? right - time to cross out the self-confessed "pumpkins fanatic" part at the top. any true fan at all would have known all those songs! i think you need to go back to listening to u2..... have a good nostalgia trip with bono. the smashing pumpkins are clearly far too cutting edge for you!

Matty 182

Matty 182 said on the 6th Aug, 2012

the setlist had disarm, today, cherub rock, bullet with butterfly wings, zero, tonight tonight and ava adore.. thats 7 massive pumpkins hits, what so they don't play 1979 and apparently they aren't playing the 'hits'?

berlinchair101

berlinchair101 said on the 7th Aug, 2012

TBH I could have gone without the Bowie cover mid set.

gumbuoy

gumbuoy said on the 7th Aug, 2012



I also think there would be less complaints if he actually said up front "At this gig we'll be playing our new album in full, and then an encore set of our hits." That way, people aren't standing in the audience thinking "Maybe Zero is next!" and getting disgruntled.

And David, I don't know why you would call Billy a martyr - a martyr for what?

berlinchair101

berlinchair101 said on the 7th Aug, 2012

I also think there would be less complaints if he actually said up front "At this gig we'll be playing our new album in full, and then an encore set of our hits." That way, people aren't standing in the audience thinking "Maybe Zero is next!" and getting disgruntled.

And David, I don't know why you would call Billy a martyr - a martyr for what?

I think you are right. Whilst die hard Pumpkins fans would have been in the know about what was heppening, your casual fan - or at least 'non media obsessed' pumpkins fans - would have been out of the loop. If it was billed as Smashing Pumpkins presents Oceania or something it would defuse a lot of complaints. I did see a fuckload of people complaining when I left the gig, despite the fact that I had enjoyed it.

QOTSA did the exact same thing last year, a hit parade festival set with sidshows billed as playing through their self titled record. With fair warning I think a lot less people were dissapointed*.


*Obviously some were disappointed, because you can't please everyone. But fuck those people, QOTSA rule.

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 7th Aug, 2012

To be fair, QOTSA playing a classic record is a little bit different to Billy and the Kids playing their fuck-off bullshit new album.

Braveheart81

Braveheart81 said on the 7th Aug, 2012

Do people really think that Billy Corgan could tour without people complaining about something?

He's too old.
His band is too young.
His band are nothing like the original Smashing Pumpkins.
He didn't play enough hits.
He played too many hits.
He was too self-indulgent.
He should be more self-indulgent.
etc. etc.

berlinchair101

berlinchair101 said on the 7th Aug, 2012

I guess so, but it's not like their self-titled had any hits on it.

It had been unable to buy on cd for a few years before the show too ha ha.

gumbuoy

gumbuoy said on the 7th Aug, 2012

My favourite complaint about the new SP band is that it's "Just Billy and backing players", like they weren't that all along.

Out of all the people that have ever been in SP, hands up anyone who wasn't fired by Billy Corgan for some reason or other?

*crickets*

Yeah, that's what I thought.

Braveheart81

Braveheart81 said on the 7th Aug, 2012

My favourite complaint about the new SP band is that it's "Just Billy and backing players", like they weren't that all along.

Out of all the people that have ever been in SP, hands up anyone who wasn't fired by Billy Corgan for some reason or other?

*crickets*

Yeah, that's what I thought.

These band members haven't appeared in an episode of The Simpsons.

Therefore they can't be real band members.

back_to_you

back_to_you said on the 7th Aug, 2012

billy said recently that the band is bigger than him..........smashing pumpkins may go on with him in the background!

berlinchair101

berlinchair101 said on the 7th Aug, 2012

These band members haven't appeared in an episode of The Simpsons.

Therefore they can't be real band members.

I think the real question is if the new band can eat all that watermelon.

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 7th Aug, 2012



James Iha wasn't fired, he just wasn't asked back. Which is fucking stupid, but still - technicality.

berlinchair101

berlinchair101 said on the 7th Aug, 2012

James Iha was asked back. He refused.

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 7th Aug, 2012

Probably a wise decision in the long run.

berlinchair101

berlinchair101 said on the 7th Aug, 2012

Thus proving them to be the best.

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 7th Aug, 2012

Do you FEEL like we do, Springfield?

nos235

nos235 said on the 7th Aug, 2012



you're a stupid cunt

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 7th Aug, 2012



And you're a creepy old man with mental problems. What else is new?

Fake Plastic Android

Fake Plastic Android said on the 7th Aug, 2012

Now that I think about it... When the fuck are QOTSA releasing some new material?

Stugalug

Stugalug said on the 7th Aug, 2012



The new Smashing Pumpkins album. As in 'too new to be considered a classic and worthy of live performance in its entirety'

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 7th Aug, 2012

It's not the fact it's new. Paul Kelly played his Stolen Apples album live when it was new and it's one of his best.

It's the fact the album blows.

Stugalug

Stugalug said on the 7th Aug, 2012

I don't know. I think its bordering on arrogant. I can't believe I'm saying this about Paul Kelly. I must be wrong.

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 7th Aug, 2012

Paul Kelly is one bald dude you don't fuck with.

gumbuoy

gumbuoy said on the 7th Aug, 2012



it's gotta be soon, surely.

berlinchair101

berlinchair101 said on the 7th Aug, 2012

They went into the studio after they played Glasto but reports so far say they are in no rush.

Regular QOTSA colaborators Alain Johannes, Mikey Shoes have been working on the new Spinerette/Brody Dalle project.

Stugalug

Stugalug said on the 7th Aug, 2012



Nobody who has seen the bad side of Paul Kelly has lived to tell the tale.

gumbuoy

gumbuoy said on the 7th Aug, 2012

When Paul Kelly says "Gig!" you say "Yes sir how high sir?"

davidswan

davidswan said on the 7th Aug, 2012

I also think there would be less complaints if he actually said up front "At this gig we'll be playing our new album in full, and then an encore set of our hits." That way, people aren't standing in the audience thinking "Maybe Zero is next!" and getting disgruntled.

And David, I don't know why you would call Billy a martyr - a martyr for what?

The dude's a martyr for being so damn convinced that the 'new' Pumpkins, and their new release Oceania, is such a big return to form that it eclipses his past band and warrants this much attention. Even I think it's overall a good album but he's so wrapped up in it being a 'good album' that he feels like he needs to prove himself by playing the whole thing. He doesn't. He should have just picked and chosen the best bits, as he did with the Splendour set. Instead his show died, with Corgan a martyr.

sarcasm_mister

sarcasm_mister said on the 7th Aug, 2012

this feels like a really long winded way of saying it was a shit gig.

and some of the best shows i've ever been to have been ones where the act has either played an album in full or very nearly so.

davidswan

davidswan said on the 7th Aug, 2012

I was actually gonna make this point in the article, but completely forgot.

When Corgan announced he was going to play Luna, for the first time in 18 years, he added to the crowd "not that you deserve it."

This sums up Corgan's attitude, and the vibe of the crowd, all in a brief two second moment.

reindelay

reindelay said on the 7th Aug, 2012



this sums up corgan's attitude, and the vibe of the crowd, all in a brief two second moment.

he followed this by saying the crowd had no hearts and that jeff schroeder hadn't heard siamese dream. as a pretty big fan i thought you'd have some sort of feel for his "sense of humour'? there are audio recordings of this show all over the web already if you need a refresh.

dunno where you were sitting but i got a completely different vibe from the gig. this was no festival hall 2008 walk off, house lights up kinda vibe.

this takes the cake for the most pompous review i've read for a long time.

berlinchair101

berlinchair101 said on the 8th Aug, 2012

No, because he seems like a cunt.

Tiepps

Tiepps said on the 8th Aug, 2012

i really wish i got to see the show, to all who saw you should be so lucky, however great review :)
i <3 billy, he can do what he wants.

retrovertigo

retrovertigo said on the 8th Aug, 2012

i was actually gonna make this point in the article, but completely forgot.

when corgan announced he was going to play luna, for the first time in 18 years, he added to the crowd "not that you deserve it."

this sums up corgan's attitude, and the vibe of the crowd, all in a brief two second moment.


oh man that was so obviously just a joke - especially seeing as how straight after he said "just kidding!"
been smokin' the hashish brar? i think you're paranoid!!

davidswan

davidswan said on the 8th Aug, 2012

oh man that was so obviously just a joke - especially seeing as how straight after he said "just kidding!"
been smokin' the hashish brar? i think you're paranoid!!

Why would he even say that unless there's some truth to it? Obviously he's thinking it or some level, otherwise why would he even joke about it?

retrovertigo

retrovertigo said on the 8th Aug, 2012



i think he likes to play up to the "arrogant rockstar" label he gets slapped on him. maybe like you say he was thinking that on some level, but it seemed pretty clear he wasn't angry at the crowd. and he did then go ahead and play the song pitch perfect. if his attitude was so lousy, i don't think we'd have heard it at all.

reindelay

reindelay said on the 9th Aug, 2012



yeah dude above has it right, lay off the hashish if you can't handle the paranoia.

were you actually there dude? its like someone told you half of what happened and you assumed the rest.

retrovertigo

retrovertigo said on the 9th Aug, 2012



billy & the kids?

dude they're all older than you, two by over a decade - guess that makes you a toddler by comparison?

jacegalvin

jacegalvin said on the 9th Aug, 2012

billy & the kids?

dude they're all older than you, two by over a decade - guess that makes you a toddler by comparison?

How is that relevant at all?

retrovertigo

retrovertigo said on the 9th Aug, 2012



it's relevant to morningafterboy's previous comment which i quoted :rolleyes:

retrovertigo

retrovertigo said on the 9th Aug, 2012



well that's the great thing about jokes - they don't have to be taken literally!!:cool:

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 9th Aug, 2012

billy & the kids?

dude they're all older than you, two by over a decade - guess that makes you a toddler by comparison?

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22826792.jpg

berlinchair101

berlinchair101 said on the 9th Aug, 2012

I'm pretty certain MAB is older than the drummer.

gumbuoy

gumbuoy said on the 9th Aug, 2012

I wish SP would put their new album on Rdio, I think I'd like it, but I'm not going to buy it without hearing it first...

davidswan

davidswan said on the 9th Aug, 2012



It's on Spotify, try that.

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 10th Aug, 2012

It's pretty lame, to be honest.

berlinchair101

berlinchair101 said on the 10th Aug, 2012

It was a lot more enjoyable live.

It's really let down by a weak middle and poor production values.

gumbuoy

gumbuoy said on the 10th Aug, 2012



I'm already paying for Rdio, don't wanna pay for two services :)

davidswan

davidswan said on the 10th Aug, 2012



It's free to listen to anything on your PC, you don't need Premium. You just get the odd ad, that's all.

retrovertigo

retrovertigo said on the 10th Aug, 2012



nope, mike byrne is 22. unless mab is lying about his age. either way, he gets egg on his face!! :d

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 10th Aug, 2012



You genuinely give a fuck about the Smashing Pumpkins in 2012.

I win.

retrovertigo

retrovertigo said on the 10th Aug, 2012

you genuinely give a fuck about the smashing pumpkins in 2012.

i win.

ha!!
anyway, back to that toddler joke you strategically dodged- does this mean you're still in nappies, or have you moved on to pull-ups?
if so you could change your sig to -

"mab's - a - big - kid - now"!!

;)

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 10th Aug, 2012

Awesome. Ever considered a career in comedy? No? Thank fuck for that.

retrovertigo

retrovertigo said on the 10th Aug, 2012



geez louise mab, i was only poking fun. no need for the school yard obscenities... oh no wait - edgy is your angle isn't it!!?

bahahaha!! :d

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 10th Aug, 2012

geez louise mab, i was only poking fun. no need for the school yard obscenities... oh no wait - edgy is your angle isn't it!!?

bahahaha!! :d

Okay, cool.

davidswan

davidswan said on the 10th Aug, 2012

I love how this thread turned out

foxtrotoscar

foxtrotoscar said on the 11th Aug, 2012

lame unimaginative letter. i saw the sydney gig [same setlist sans luna]. it was well known that he would play the new album in full, and as such it was a show with two halves. yes the first half was too long, but it was always meant to be an 'aperitif' for the audience, before blowing them away. but the second half was truly brilliant. i personally didnt know soot & stars, but thought it was fantastic [see video of it on youtube/coolhandluque]. there were many hits [despite no 1979], and a brilliant encore of cherub, ava adore and zero.. again, watch the coolhandluque videos shot from amidst the front crowd which erupted. i also saw both u2's 360deg tour and qotsa's recent tour, and i enjoyed the sps much more than either.

Pat Mustard

Pat Mustard said on the 27th Aug, 2012

bloody hell what a pack of whingers. the show was great and i'd never heard oceania before (maybe a bit scary for the uncreative closed minded types). billy and the band were absolutely on fire and played a very generous setlist; i watched from the seats and was disgusted with the crowd response on the floor. i honestly wouldn't have blamed billy for telling you all to get f*cked and walking off. i was very disillusioned (especially as a musician and songwriter) watching the crowd as it really illustrated to me why modern music sucks so much - the fans don't get behind good new music. which brings me to the other point - wolfmother, the best current australian band by some considerable margin obviously wasn't appealing to the closed minded hipster posers of melbourne. fu*k my generation sucks.

MorningAfterboy

MorningAfterboy said on the 27th Aug, 2012



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oldgregg

oldgregg said on the 27th Aug, 2012

Pat 'couldn't cut the' Mustard.