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Smashing Pumpkins: "I'llhave the last laugh"

You’ve talked about other ‘90s bands being sellouts, is doing a re-release of your back catalogue a sell out move?
That’s a dumb question. That’s one of those set up, journalist dumb questions. Come on I’m 45, you’ve got to do a little better than that one.

Alright. Machina II is a brilliant album, have you ever thought about releasing it properly, maybe when you re-issue the others?
Yes. Our sell-out move, for Machina, is we’re going to remix the whole record and put it in its official sequence the way I’d hoped for in the beginning. I wrote it as a rock opera double album type of thing, so we’re going to remix the whole thing. I’ve already talked to Flood, and he’s been indicating he wants to be involved with that part of the process, and then we’ll finally finish the album, the way it was meant to be. How was that? Did that pass the Pitchfork meter of integrity? Me reaching into my own pockets to remix my own records so I can convince kids who didn’t like them the first time the first time to buy them again?

“I’ve made some of my best music when I’ve been fucking miserable.”

I think that’s good, I think the fans have been waiting to hear that for a long time.
Very good.

What about the current incarnation of the band, can you see yourself touring and recording with it for the next ten years?
I don’t like to put timeframes, because like I said I don’t take anything for granted, but I’m really happy and I hope that we stay together. I really like the band, I like the fact that everybody’s involved, I like the fact that we all participated on the album, and worked hard on it together. This is the sunny version of the band. I was in the dark version of the band, this is the sunny version, so I hope the sunny version lasts as long as possible.

You said in a blog that you’re at a good place in your life. Is it possible to make relevant rock and roll while being happy and at peace?
I haven’t proven that point yet. The answer is ‘I don’t know’, I’ve made some of my best music when I’ve been fucking miserable.

Do you feel like you have to pissed off at something in order to make good music?
No, I don’t honestly, between you and me [chuckles] I don’t believe in that theory. I don’t believe the best art is made by depressed people. The greatest creation ever is what God made of this world, Australia’s one of the most beautiful places on Earth, there was no depression there, when whomever made that place. So, I don’t believe that. The greatest things don’t come out of depression, the greatest things come out of love. And the greatest things in life oftentimes go unnoticed. It’s the little things that happen between people who love each other. Things like albums and stuff, those are postcards, little postcards in life. They’re fine, and they seem important, but they’ll all end up in the dust like everything else.

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oldgregg

oldgregg said on the 26th Apr, 2012

i thought that was a fair question, should have been like 'STFU CUNT'.

did you recover alright?

berlinchair101

berlinchair101 said on the 26th Apr, 2012

Yeah I don't think it was an unreasonable question either.

I always find Billy interviews interesting, I think he reads a lot of his own press so he's always wary of how he's coming across when he gives his answers.

Braveheart81

Braveheart81 said on the 26th Apr, 2012

I hear he reads every high school newspaper across the country just looking for a mention.

http://www.planet-familyguy.com/pfg/images/characters/lukeperry.jpg

davidswan

davidswan said on the 27th Apr, 2012

i thought that was a fair question, should have been like 'stfu ****'.

did you recover alright?

yeah i think if you dish it out you should be able to take it. he could have defended it in a million different ways, by saying it's for the fans, by mentioning all the bonus tracks, etc. etc.

i recovered fine, mostly through jumping to my most 'suck up' question, haha. ;)

lukey26

lukey26 said on the 27th Apr, 2012

Hahaha, what a jerkwad. I was thinking of going to his sideshow if it was announced, but fuck that. He won't get a cent from me until I get a re-released album remixed by Optimus Prime and Silverchair.

SeniourButtkiss

SeniourButtkiss said on the 27th Apr, 2012

i wish billy would bring the pumpkins to perth for there own shows instead of doing all these fucking festivals. i refuse to pay $200 in order to get 45 minutes of pumpkins!

berlinchair101

berlinchair101 said on the 27th Apr, 2012



What if you could get VIP tickets?




I don't want to break this to you but while Perth is still stuck in the 90's The Smashing Pumpkins are not... so you probably should be glad.

BenCheshire

BenCheshire said on the 27th Apr, 2012

david, there's about a million proofreading errors here. looks unprofesh.

berlinchair101

berlinchair101 said on the 27th Apr, 2012



http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs5/2084696_o.gif

Stefan Beck

Stefan Beck said on the 27th Apr, 2012



They were here like eighteen months ago.
Should gone to that.

back_to_you

back_to_you said on the 27th Apr, 2012

well handled interview.
here is a new song, that will be on the new album

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Yn7ka1SNsc

sarahanne

sarahanne said on the 27th Apr, 2012



Or the way Billy speaks? I can not see a million subbing errors.

grattan

grattan said on the 27th Apr, 2012

Anyway...

The Smashing Pumpkins Australian Tour dates to be announced Thursday!

davidswan

davidswan said on the 27th Apr, 2012



the only ones i can see are 'cuckles' and the second last question isn't in bold. i think cuckles is my bad, though.

Captain Smashed

Captain Smashed said on the 27th Apr, 2012

To me, Billy has always been one of those people who, despite the fact I like the Pumpkins (well, most of their stuff), I have always thought he was a giant twat. I don't think I will bother with them this time around - last time was bad enough seeing him wank into the microphone. That said, cool interview David. Nice work.

oldgregg

oldgregg said on the 27th Apr, 2012



not sure if I see what you did there..

berlinchair101

berlinchair101 said on the 27th Apr, 2012



Just being a twat.

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oldgregg

oldgregg said on the 27th Apr, 2012

i thought you put all caps for an editing mistakes joke... awkward.

berlinchair101

berlinchair101 said on the 27th Apr, 2012



No I wrote it all in capitals and it edited it down itself and I couldn't be fucked changing it.

judgelord

judgelord said on the 27th Apr, 2012

he is a fair twat, but still a musical legend!

retrovertigo

retrovertigo said on the 27th Apr, 2012

what do you think? post your comment...

retrovertigo

retrovertigo said on the 27th Apr, 2012

whoops sorry about that up there!!

great interview!
re the "sellout" question though, c'mon that was completely loaded!!
& why not stick up for what you were asking? what's the worst that could happen? billy storms out of interview proving himself a twat? you missed your chance man!!

retrovertigo

retrovertigo said on the 27th Apr, 2012

whoops sorry about that up there!!

great interview!
re the "sellout" question though, c'mon that was completely loaded!!
& why not stick up for what you were asking? what's the worst that could happen? billy storms out of interview proving himself a twat? you missed your chance man!!

Blasted

Blasted said on the 27th Apr, 2012

You seem to have this posting thing down Pat.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0b/Postman-Pat.jpg/250px-Postman-Pat.jpg

oldgregg

oldgregg said on the 27th Apr, 2012

can I just ask, what happens if you offend an artist at the end of an interview? or get in an argument with them or something?

bigval

bigval said on the 27th Apr, 2012

I'm old enough to remember the Smashing Pumpkins they were a good band.

A few years ago I heard the Billy Corgan Quartet were going to release a 40 song album, not unsurprisingly it never happened.

Just another brain fart from this clown like Zwan & his disastrous solo album 'The Past Embraced' or something.

Keep trying to cash in Axl but just make sure you don't forget to play those Pumpkins covers.

back_to_you

back_to_you said on the 28th Apr, 2012

i think the new album Oceania is part of the 40 song, teargarden by kaliediscope, release.

davidswan

davidswan said on the 28th Apr, 2012

whoops sorry about that up there!!

great interview!
re the "sellout" question though, c'mon that was completely loaded!!
& why not stick up for what you were asking? what's the worst that could happen? billy storms out of interview proving himself a twat? you missed your chance man!!

of course it was loaded but i wanted to either get an interesting reaction or for him to defend himself. anyone can ask questions like 'your career's been amazing what's your inspiration for writing music' blah blah, but i think to get the most out of an interview you have to challenge the person at least a little bit. especially someone like billy who dishes it out to other bands himself.
in terms of 'what's the worst that could happen', it was a phone interview, so he could have easily just hung up. i could have stuck with the question and pursued it further, sure, but i think if you've only got 15 or 20 minutes with someone it's a better use of time to move onto something else where you'll get something out of them, as opposed to arguing over something and either wasting time or having them just end the interview over it.

davidswan

davidswan said on the 28th Apr, 2012



from what billy was saying the teargarden by kaleidyscope idea is over and he's not sure what will happen after oceania's release. from other interviews i think he's hinted that he'll just go back to making 'normal albums'.

retrovertigo

retrovertigo said on the 28th Apr, 2012

of course it was loaded but i wanted to either get an interesting reaction or for him to defend himself. anyone can ask questions like 'your career's been amazing what's your inspiration for writing music' blah blah, but i think to get the most out of an interview you have to challenge the person at least a little bit. especially someone like billy who dishes it out to other bands himself.
in terms of 'what's the worst that could happen', it was a phone interview, so he could have easily just hung up. i could have stuck with the question and pursued it further, sure, but i think if you've only got 15 or 20 minutes with someone it's a better use of time to move onto something else where you'll get something out of them, as opposed to arguing over something and either wasting time or having them just end the interview over it.

well said, & fair point ;)
you've actually spoken to the guy directly so your words hold merit, unlike the countless hipsters who'll bag out billy just cause that's the cool thing to do.

judgelord

judgelord said on the 29th Apr, 2012

excellent interview, love how billy is just so honest. one of the geatest

lateleigh

lateleigh said on the 30th Apr, 2012

I'm pleased that he's scrapped the Tiergarden By Kaleidoscope idea. What a disaster that was! I enjoyed this interview, but mostly in a "what's that idiot on about this time" way. Well done working with such a knob and still pulling together a decent article.

daveyac8881

daveyac8881 said on the 1st May, 2012

He seems like an interesting guy, I'd have tried the tougher questions towards the end and more relentlessly so at least if he hangs up you've got the goods already.

I might have worded that question a bit differently but I guess he's used to being taken out of context and made to sound like a knob